Ep.#157-Black Guns Matter

11/16/2016

In this episode we discuss Black gun ownership

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Whendi McKinley

11/16/2016 05:07:27 pm

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12/4/2018 08:40:53 pm

I am just thinking about the essence of guns. Why does it need to create guns? Is it a necessity to kill other people just to protect your own self. It is true that people from the history create arms to protect themselves from the dangers of beasts and animals. Through the course of generations, different weapons are created for the purpose of inflicting damage to other people from other countries. What am I thinking is that, is it really a necessity to use weapons when we could live in peace?I am just thinking about the essence of guns. Why does it need to create guns? Is it a necessity to kill other people just to protect your own self. It is true that people from the history create arms to protect themselves from the dangers of beasts and animals. Through the course of generations, different weapons are created for the purpose of inflicting damage to other people from other countries. What am I thinking is that, is it really a necessity to use weapons when we could live in peace?

11/16/2016 09:49:24 pm

I remember when I went to a gun store in Fayetteville, North Carolina next to the Fort Bragg gate (Guns Plus). I was a loyal customer, usual went in there for the cheap gun range prices and extended practice time. During the Trayvon Martin situation, I walked in there and asked them if I could buy "blue" human targets to practice on. I usually buy the clear ones but after the Trayvon Martin thing, I noticed new colors, codes for black(African American), brown(Muslims/Arabs), red (Native Americans), etc. etc. I noticed in the corner they had blue targets collecting dust.

I ask the owner if I could buy the blue ones only, since it seemed like no one was touching them. With anger in his face voice, he said to me "No, we're only selling the Black Ones". I never went back to that store/range again. This shit is real, real deep. I would love more info on the right places to buy, especially from our own. I know how to talk to white mom & pop cats about guns but in this climate, I'm really not trying to fuck with them anymore. I usually go to gun shows, but you have to know your shit. They'll try to sell you Mac-10's, brass knuckles, and Extendos, and pistols that jam and there really is no quality control, you just have to know your shit, but we really need a different way of going about doing this.

This is the book that you need, at a minimum, to get a feel for what a gun is worth:

"2017 Standard Catalog of Firearms: The Collector's Price & Reference Guide"

https://www.amazon.com/2017-Standard-Catalog-Firearms-Collectors/dp/1440246882/ref=dp_ob_title_bk

Sweet T

11/18/2016 10:23:46 am

All in the game baby. Most of those guns you mentioned are from "recovered evidence" and from those "turn in your guns" rally's. They fire them off at the range, so already they've got even more stress on them. They're polished up then sent to be redistributed at mark-up prices. Crazy eh?.

Hors Sfier

11/20/2016 12:07:39 pm

@Sweet T
I am digging this 2nd Amendment game on the board. That seals it for me. No munitions from gun shows. Those demons will probably cheat you.

11/16/2016 09:51:59 pm

I meant to say "Extended Magazines" , not extendos. The dude is right, you come into the store sounding like a rap record from the 90's, you're gonna get beat over the head in prices or not sold anything.

11/16/2016 09:53:38 pm

Another thing, a 30rd magazine is standard and practical, stick to those on rifles. Fuck that Mickey mouse (drum Magazine) stuff. Unless you own a bunker or some type of armored vehicle where you can sit in place and shoot without getting shot back, a drum magazine is useless, heavy, and you'll miss most shots.

11/16/2016 11:33:49 pm

P.S. : I'm not Maj Toure, did my time in the military and got schooled (and learned on my own) about the basics of weaponry, laws in the US, and built my knowledge from the ground up.

Hors Sfier

11/17/2016 09:16:19 am

@JS
This is good info. That is worth knowing.
I will check out that guide.

Tariq had another caller state how Black people get sold bad goods at these gun shows. So you can't trust them. My cousin just got her piece. I want to see what the law is for being a licensed gun seller so I can import. One of my conservative coworkers had all kinds of guns from foreign countries. When Black people put up good money, the russians, chinese, german and israelis will sell to us.

11/17/2016 04:21:37 pm

There are forums out there online that can teach you to build guns, takes time but the effort is worth it if you really want to master your weapon of choice. There is also an ok resale value element to it, but I don't fuck with that too much, it's better to have a license and be 100% legit and have a legit papertrail and not call attention to yourself imho. I haven't touched too much of the business side of the arms world, so I can't comment on that. But given who is President now (no, I don't like the guy, but business is business), it should be easier to do what you want to do Hors Sfier.

SkyChopper link

11/17/2016 09:04:39 pm

Guns are for cowards... Unfortunately we are forced to fight fire with fire against an enemy who only knows violence! #JusticeOrElse

SkyChopper

11/20/2016 11:32:29 am

@JS
This why I will be at seminar training December 2nd in Compton, CA.

https://m.facebook.com/blackgunsmattermajtoure/photos/a.688136921327394.1073741829.688050468002706/754028121404940/?type=3&source=54

11/20/2016 02:23:24 pm

Word, hope Maj drops some good knowledge. I've been trying to find one east coast date from him, Compton is too far for me.

11/17/2016 11:47:46 pm

@SkyChopper, guns are just one tool out of many available. It's not the solution to everything, but if your words/actions don't have "teeth" to back them up, the enemy will not take you seriously. I'm sorry, but that's just how this world works. No one is asking you to play Rambo, but if all hell breaks loose, you need to have a way to stay alive and protect yourself, your family, and community.

DAPOET

11/18/2016 06:04:53 am

Maj is a great dude and has been giving back through education and training. Philadelphia historically has seen alot of drama and in recent weeks it has only progressed.

Referencing the gun argument as stated by @skychopper, it does come don to a fire wuth fire agrument, but unfortunately its nit jusy the firepower, but also the training. I have been shooting for roughly 2 decades and i see lots of people who don't practice basic firearms safety and dont have a clue what to purchase or how to choose a good firearm for them. When talking about anything especially firearms its important to get educated. Youtube does help with dissassembly, cleaning, reasssmbly, stance, safety, and dry fire training. Also there arent many families who teach what to do in an emergency situation. I have asked several young people that i mentor, what would they do if someone broke in their house? Then followed up with have your parents walked through exercises with you? 100% of the time the answer has been no. As a parent i believe my responsibility is to equip my family and as such we do trainings with "ring's blue guns" which are safety training weapons that weigh the same and are the exact models of real firearms. A recommendation to get anyone over the fear of handling a firearm and avtively teaching safety.

Hors Sfier

11/18/2016 08:20:07 pm

@JS
I keep hearing good things about the German and British made pieces, that they are reliable and last forever. It is good for Black people to have options from different suppliers.
Yeah, I don't trust anything from those demons that can't be verified independently.

I read some comments from Black people worried that Maj's seminars have non-Blacks in attendance. There is nothing wrong with that. The Black community is already infiltrated with those demons. And from what Maj said on the ustream, he is just passing along information that is well know to the others, but not the Brothers. So there is nothing secret about Maj's information. Black people suffer due to lack of knowledge. I did not know PA was an open-carry state. But when he broke down why Philadelphia was exempted from the open carry statute, it made a lot of sense.
So let those demons sit in attendance. Just don't let them follow you home. Even if the audience was all-Black, I guarantee you that the agents of the state would send some Black to infiltrate, record and report. That is how the legal entities work in this country. Look at what happened to the Black Panthers. In my social scene, there are two Blacks that I know are closet buck dancers, even though they show up to a lot of Black events. I keep my distance from them.

The thing that I will say is that when you plan to do something only include a SMALL group of Blacks, any group larger than five people should be on a need-to-know basis. You don't know who the closet bed wenches and buck dancers are. I work with two Blacks now and that is enough. If they try to bring in a non-Black, I am cashing out.

If you look at recent events, the Brothers who made the most definitive points acted solo. They didn't do any marching, crying, singing or dance. They just pulled out that thing and let it whistle.
Other groups in the world move the same way. They claim an action AFTER they do it. With no marching, crying, singing, dancing, protesting, speeches. None of that. Sometimes they commit an action and don't even claim it. Black people need to learn the whole art of seeking justice.

11/19/2016 01:23:38 am

I have these same concerns and I don't see the point of being in the NRA (I used to be a member, they didn't teach me anything I didn't know already). I'm just gonna watch and see where he goes with this. I'm the same way, I roll solo or with a few other cats that are up-to-par on training with me. Anything bigger than that, I'm going to watch from afar and see if it's legit or not.

We The People

11/19/2016 06:04:48 pm

About 50 of us have been training for years. I'm not sure what the big deal is. Never point at anything you don't intend to shoot. Also, when the shells land on you, don't freak out, and let it burn you if it's too dangerous to maneuver.

11/20/2016 01:45:22 am

Who exactly is "we" ? And no, you don't let shells "burn you", you'll bleed to death if any of your arteries are hit. Learn to take cover and basic first-aid. If you're getting hit, you're cover is shit, you're being overrun, and/or your positioning is terrible. Retreat and/or seek cover immediately and return fire if possible.

I have a really bad feeling that alot of mis-information is going to get spread. Find someone with some skin in the game (ex-military) to train you, at a minimum. Anybody else is blowing smoke up your ass it's starting to seem like. I hope this movement doesn't get stopped dead in its tracks, not so much by agent saboteurs, but by bad information/training that will get you killed when the time comes to put that training into action.

We The People

11/22/2016 02:46:41 pm

*Bull casings from the recoil sir

Hors Sfier

11/20/2016 12:20:45 pm

Man, with these demons coming out in the open after the last election, I have noticed an interesting theme.

On my timeline, the overwhelming number of BLACK supporters for the president-elect are clearly Black. What that means is that they are heavily melanated. Not mixed. Not biracial. Black people need to get out of the whole biracial/mixed whatever debate. If you put up money and munitions to support Black people's Constitutional rights, then I can ride with you. Fake outrage Blacks get upset about mixed and biracial, meanwhile my timeline is filled with posts from dumb 100% Black supporters of the president-elect.

I don't correct them though. They will be fiddling and buck dancing really hard for the next 4 years. So why get upset about mixed and biracial, when we have these full Black buck dancers and bed wenches who support the president-elect and his host of demons.
When need to just marshal forces based on group economics and exercise of the 2nd amendment.

Mr. Jon

11/21/2016 05:51:22 pm

Why do you add them?

Hors Sfier

11/22/2016 02:46:02 pm

@Mr. Jon
You mean add them to my social media network?
Man, I had no idea at the time the sellouts were that deep.
When this election cycle started to heat up, that buck dancing and bed wench spirit rose up in them.
A lot of them are Africans. I kid you not.The craziest supporters of the president-elect in my larger social circle are Africans. The white people on my timeline are really low key about their voting.

On a related note, I had to charge one of my Black relatives to the game. He is religious and said that the president-elect beat all of the other candidates due to some divine intervention. I was like, wtf.
Then he started quoting that Bible verse about how authority is divinely given. That slave religion is no joke. If I connect the two, the religious Africans who support the president-elect are the craziest group of people I know right now. Even the non-Blacks around me are walking carefully because they know a lot of Blacks are on alert.

11/21/2016 12:02:25 am

Anyways, I hope I put some good/basic info out there. Take the time to learn the basics and build from there. I think Maj is gonna do good things, based on his podcasts and the knowledge he spits.

Mr. Jon

11/21/2016 05:54:20 pm

Idunno how many of you fellas follow Sergeant Willie Pete, but he did a show on 2nd amen rts.

https://youtu.be/rP1rn8zwLHc

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