Ep.#16-Plantation Privileges

2/13/2014

In this episode Tariq talks about the Michael Dunn/Jordan Davis case and certain "titles" that Black people are allowed to have.

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Chajo Negro

2/13/2014 10:44:59 am

Preciate the love bruh! You went in on 'em! Keep up the good work! Can't wait to see Hidden Colors 3!

Juba

2/13/2014 10:50:35 am

Deep episode Flex! Back to the books!!

Tyrone

2/13/2014 10:58:15 am

Das Frann

2/13/2014 11:09:35 am

If we are in a so called system that is designed to keep us "oppressed" forever......then why in the fuck are we still here? I just don't see why we can't raise a few billion dollars, get us some land in Africa (they're not using it wisely) and start our own got damn country. We would then be able to place ourselves on the international stage, we could get some nukes, and carve out our own destiny. If the fucking Jews could do it, why can't we?

HorsSfier

2/13/2014 01:34:58 pm

I think the problem is less that the system is designed to oppress us forever and more that the system is design to train us to oppress ourselves. White people, until recently in the news, would come at you slick but the black would rob and shoot you dead. No sense in a white supremacist getting his hands bloody with a system like that.

It is insane that blacks have to move to white neighborhoods to feel safe. I know the historical reasons why but it is pure madness. If we could just stop undermining each other, we would be okay. That is where the Jews figured it out. Before the Jews got Israel(with massive amount of help from Europe and the US) they had a CODE of non-aggression toward other jews. we need that code not another homeland.

Das Frann

2/13/2014 02:38:49 pm

Jews had a CODE of non-aggression towards other Jews? Okay, and they were still slaughtered by the millions. I mean look at what you're saying. "codes" and "words" don't mean shit. It's all about action. It's all about power, sovereignty, and wealth......not "codes" and "signals". My god people wake up. "CODES" and "SIGNALS" didn't stop the Nazi party from killing Jews. It took Guns, tanks, war planes, and missiles from.....get this now...."Sovereign" States to save the Jews, and that's what it's going to take to save us. You can disagree with that all you want, but the truth is the truth.

well said! Horssfier

2/14/2014 01:14:31 pm

Dumbass Niggas ARE our black problem!

the system has convinced these grown ass, dumb ass niggas that it's COOL to:
1) be an idiot
2) be dependent on the system
3) sell drugs and other poisons to the community
4) Be "attractively" uncooperative
5) do nothing for their communities but harm
6) then to end up in jail or prison

AND THESE NIGGAS ARE PROUDLY FOLLOWING THIS DIRECTION STILL TODAY! I'M TIRED OF THESE NIGGAS AS MUCH AS I HATE THESE RACIST MOTHERFUCKAS, EVERYTHING ABOUT THEM I HATE. I KNOW YALL SEE THE SAME SHIT!

EVERYTHING FROM THE SYSTEM ITSELF TO RELIGION TO MARCUS GARVEY BOOKS-- NOTHING HAS WORKED!!! THESE ARE NOT COMMUNITY ENFORCERS, THESE ARE GROWN ASS IRREVERSIBLE CANCERS.

THIS IS THE GLOBAL BLACK PROBLEM! GOOD AFRICANS (INCLUDING AA, ITS ALL THE SAME!) DONT HAVE THE NUMBERS TO KILL THESE NIGGAS (EVERYTHING ELSE HAS BEEN TRIED!) EVERYTHING ABOUT THEM SCREAM DIRTY, DUSTY, DUMB, AND DANGEROUS. THEYLL KILL A INNOCENT AFRICAN BEFORE A RACIST, BUT ISNT KILLING JUST APART OF THEIR STREET BOOTLEGGING BUSINESS RIGHT? BULLSHIT!

QUITE HONESTLY, I'D LOVE TO BE THE GUNMEN WHO PUTS A BULLET IN ALL THEIR BLACK ASS DUMB BRAINS! ALL OF THEM!!!!! THE ARE THE HIGHEST DEGREE OF DISGRACE THAT WE'VE TOLERATED FOR TOO LONG, PPL SLAVES IN THEIR OWN COMMUNITIES! THEY DONT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THEIR OWN KIDS, NIECES/NEPHEWS ETC!

STOP PLAYING, THESE NIGGAS NEED TO DIE.

PLEASE TELL ME WHERE IM WRONG AT? HOW LONG ARE WE GOING TO ALLOW SOME "POST TRAUMATIC SLAVERY DISORDER' AS THEIR EXCUSE TO ENDLESSLY FUCK UP OUR COMMUNITIES AND KILLING PPL IN THE PROGRESS AND UNASHAMED ABOUT IT"

micah

2/13/2014 12:22:09 pm

My opinion is purely conjecture, but i think something changed between pre and post slavery as far as what indigenous people of color contributed to as far as trade and distribution of goods. it's funny how in all the depictions of north carolina and virginia during the slavory period you would always see the spaniards or portuguese with african guides who we learned were treated better than the 'soft goods'. At least formally. Paul Mooney jokes about how the Dominant Society has taken from us. I feel the 1st thing they took from us besides Freedom was knowledge of the sea faring trade routes, THEN they rounded us up on ships to sell us, using the knowledge that we gave them. Tariq is correct in his opinion that we've forgotten how to use group economics to our advantage

micah

2/13/2014 12:26:17 pm

Das Frann Remember what happened to Irv Gotti and Suge Knight when they figured out they needed distribution more than a record label. They went to jail!!!!!

Das Frann

2/13/2014 12:50:11 pm

At this point micah, we really have nothing to lose. I'd rather go to jail or die trying to build something for the next black generation than stand around trying to play patty cake with these crackas, Tariq talked about that labeling non-sense....."well you're a suspected white supremacist"....fuck that. White people don't care what we label them....give me a break. If my racial group owned everything in a country, do you think I'd care what some poor broke ass nigga calls me.....no. Let's face it, black people are doomed here in this country. The longer we stay in this toxic place, the more we're going to lose ourselves, until eventually we die out. Time to go independent. The jews definitely left a great blueprint as to how.

Hors Sfier

2/13/2014 01:30:08 pm

The intelligent blacks have nothing to lose at this point, so yes we might as well try to do the best we can BUT where we are.I think the solution is less in going back to Africa and more in using the resources we already have here. If we can't be safe in black neighborhoods which have basic infrastructure how the heck is going to Africa and building infrastructure from scratch going to help?

The point about Twitter beef is relevant. We have a 1st class computer network that some black people use to argue and send twerking videos. How is moving to Africa going to fix that?

The main issue is the plantation mentality which would follow us to Africa. Our problem is a mindset not a geographic location.

Das Frann

2/13/2014 02:24:47 pm

Wow Hors, you are what I call the "Timid Negro". You cannot possibly understand the power that one can amass with a nation. I must admit that you are quite foolish in believing that our only option at this point is changing the mind set of blacks in this country. You sound like a defeatist. We attempted to change the mind set of blacks so many times, but yet our situation here is still deteriorating....If you're not smart enough to figure this out....then I'll tell you.....BLACK PEOPLE WILL NEVER EVER GET THEIR MINDS RIGHT. They are still the same scared, docile little monkeys they were 300 years ago. In fact their docility is why we're here in this country now. However, the few of us who are awake can indeed make a difference. We don't need everyone on board....just the right people to steer the ship. Also, never stay in a burning house Hors, you can always build another one.

Hors Sfier

2/13/2014 10:36:22 pm

Sooooooo American blacks who can't even have a civil disagreement online without name calling and threats are going to start a country from scratch in one of the most challenging terrains on the planet? Good luck with that.

Part of the reason the jews were able to go to Israel and hold onto that land is that they had a cohesive diaspora that influenced major world governments, e.g, the US, France and the UK. They were outnumbered but disciplined. Blacks outnumber Jews in America by 8 to 1, at least. Without a code all we are doing is exporting our problems somewhere else. If you tell me you can't max out where you are then you aren't going to do jack in your next place.

Das Frann

2/14/2014 12:21:35 am

The most challenging terrains on the planet? You have to be kidding me. Dubai and the UAE was nothing but desert.....However, the emirates used their one resource, oil, to build a magnificent utopia. The dumb jungle monkeys in Africa have coltan, iridium, gold, silver, diamonds, oil, and so much more, but these idiots are not using their resources to their advantage. South Sudan has tons of oil, but they're killing each other over tribal bullshit, mainly due to mis-education. Putting ourselves in a position of control within our own nation allows us to teach what we want, since you're an advocate of getting people's minds right, build what we want, and do what we want without going to white people. We are by far the most educated group of black people on the planet, but what's the point of having a car with no engine. If the tap dancing educated fools here could somehow get a few billion dollars together, I can personally get a team together to build us a got damn country. And I'd bet my right butt cheek that you'd be one of the first people to go there.....in fact I guarantee it. Come on Hors if a movement to build an independent nation came along, are you telling me that you wouldn't be apart of it?

Hors Sfier

2/14/2014 01:03:15 am

Dubai and the UAE are a utopia? That is not true. If you have money there, you are doing very well, like anywhere else. Otherwise, you are a worker bee. That is not the definition of a utopia. And there are a lot of ex-pats who helped those countries get to a certain standard.
Those oil-based economies depend mightily on foreign help. That is hardly the level of independence a sustainable black nation would have. Would we have to get European or American engineers???
How soon are we back in a divide-and-conquer posture? Frankly, the foreign governments for a lot of historical reasons, have the ready made expertise to extract those materials. Africans will need to build a critical core before they can compete on that level. That is not a fantasy, just straight talk. Africans are not " dumb jungle monkeys".
That insult is suspect, "brother". I've never heard an adult black call Africans jungle monkeys.

Where is our critical mass of doctors, lawyers, architects, engineers, nurse etc? Are you going to build a nation of intellectuals? Ha! Jews had scientists and engineers in spades so they were ready to at least get to a stable point. Meanwhile, the jews in the diaspora were hustling in the capital cities to get money, weapons and technology. So the Jews were working two fronts: foreign and domestic. We have no foreign and our domestic has a plantation mentality. The fact that Jews have a code means that irrespective of their differences other issues they never undermine their own nation or group. Black Americans DO NOT HAVE THAT CODE. I wish you fair winds and following seas on that effort.

Sure, I think a stable black nation would be awesome and is necessary. However, you still have not addressed the point that we need to get our minds right at a collective level to at least not undermine the effort to create territory. Try it now and you will be infiltrated by agent provocateurs, coons and negro bed wenches.
It would be a mess of infighting and fratricide. A separate black nation is the realm of science fiction without a code.

Antonio

2/14/2014 03:15:24 am

Das Granny it aint as hard as you think.just open up a business, use that money to invest and then the world is yours bro! forget about plantations slaves whites whatever bro..its as simple as buying carpet cleaning equipment and putting out advertisements. then as your business grows you can start looking at stock market or real estate or anything else

Codified

2/13/2014 02:03:57 pm

Glad to see Nelly Fuller Jr. work spreading and influencing so many. The man is a genius and is the best student of the system of racism white supremacy and how to deal with it with logic, not emotion.

Get his works and become an codified at:

http://producejustice.com

bryan

2/13/2014 11:07:34 pm

Mac on king fleezy

Revlin Smith

2/13/2014 10:58:31 pm

Great show! I can hear you have been working with Neely Fuller. Am I right?

JHall

2/14/2014 02:28:00 am

Cold

playon

2/14/2014 10:10:42 am

I think he hit it dead on. You gotta approach these situations with logics not emotions. Common sense is your greatest education, use it. You think these people gone sit back and let you build a nation? Yeah they'll let all of us get in one area and wipe all our ass out. And plus the British been running Africa do your research. And stop acting emotional that's a female trait. Codes and words is a start, a small sign of unity. In my opinion slang is our language and we don't need to give that up. Lol they like what he say but i know perfectly well what he said.

Hors Sfier

2/15/2014 08:09:17 pm

Those who work in corporate America, watch how the Indians and Chinese roll in those fields. Even when they have internal problems between themselves, they NEVER let a white man come in the midst of that to influence or manipulate. That is why they are respected in the workplace. You get two of them and they are automatically a team relative to everyone else. Like I said, there are a lot of internal problems within those communities but they handle business in house. I know Chinese chicks who only date white men but you will never hear them disparage chinese men. The white man knows he cannot undermine the chinese through chinese women. Nor can he undermine Indians through Indian women. That is a CODE.

That is why you get so many high achieving asians and Indians. As long as they have a CODE and a united front, the white man respects them. I am telling you, there is no black nation without a CODE.

not Hors Sfier

2/14/2014 01:53:28 pm

I strong approve his messages above.

HE GETS IT!

DONT GIVE UP!

2/14/2014 04:54:40 pm

HorsSfier, Das Frann, and Antonio

PLLEASE Don't let this small excitement on a great idea fizzle even with Tariq's new topic next week. I have two bachelors already and i graduate with a masters in a natural science in May. I want this and we need this to happen!! We're all sick of the typical futile black nationalists talk all the time, this is the opportunity to make big moves for once as we're always complaining, and rightfully so.

Here are my considerations:
1) First get your mind and money right. Say no to drugs. Duh stuff

2) the only place to go is Africa, but where? I'm sure there's leadership who'd be willing to work with the right ex-pats and diaspora. Many Africans (including AAs) left these countries at some point and are now well educated and trained so we'd certainly bring value to many much needed areas, we have leverage. I'd suggest considering the most stable sovereignty to work with. Any ideas? Zimbabwe, maybe? Mugabe always looking to make waves.

3) US Africans - maybe the govt can help with that long overdue 40 acre funding and help us pack our bags. MAYBE THEYLL HELP (don't count on it). The only problem is I believe theyre more eager to see dumb ass niggas leave more than us, and although I'm flattered, I DONT WANT THESE TYPES TO BE THERE EITHER - YALL KNOW THOSE TYPES.

Maybe enough effort behind a well crafted petition.org movement will get the govt's attention. But why?

4) the who - I loved to have trusted African visionaries as neighbors as I knew so many in college, many from Africa and here in the States. Lesson learned from African leaders in America and Africa that this wishful thinking could be easily obfuscated inviting the wrong ppl to this discussion. You have to have this deeply engrained in your heart, bullshit bickering has no place. This is an immensely vast and radical endeavor, only those with proven aptitude and resilience should help blueprint such a movement. We've seen smart ppl on here and Africans around the web be complete assholes, u can't work with those types either (I still don't know who they tried to impress)

This is a great start! We're certainly not scratching through anything now, but it certainly has me thinking. Thanks everyone.

Hors Sfier

2/15/2014 08:02:06 pm

A while back Tariq did a podcast where he said that black people should only deal with black people based on a specific agenda, not just because they are black. That agenda is the code.
That way, you avoid the coons, goons, hoodrats and negro bed wenches. When you are moving toward a specific goal, say setting up an alternative economy you can quickly weed out those who are trying to undermine that effort. Corporate american culture is genius at this. Those startups come together quickly, keep it together with some sort of code long enough to get funding, go public, sell off their shares and live life as multi-millionaires.

I took that advice straight to the artery. I only did with people, black, white, asian or latino based on a specific task. I think there needs to be a hard separation in the black community, a CIVIL peace where the garbage blacks go in one direction and the noble blacks go in another direction, with NO MIXING. Tariq made the point that instead of this myth of saving all black people, leave as many as you can behind until they get their heads right. I learned the lesson the hard way trying to work with blacks in corporate America who were the ONLY ones who tried to torpedo my career. I had two negro bed wenches try to sabotage my projects. The white people would talk slick but stay out of the way. The black bed wenches were more than happy to try to come at me directly. Lesson learned!

Td3

2/16/2014 05:24:08 pm

Hate to be crass, but thats really Fucked Up beyond belief what those coons and bed wenches tried to do to you. wtf! I see why there's Dorners of the world.

I've already started researching areas in Africa I'd like to set up shop. This research has been soft (YouTube videos, blogs, news outlets) relating to current political, economic, and social states in the countries of interest. Although I attend a pwc most my friends are African immigrants or simply AA who share somewhat the same aspirations. I wish I could leave as soon as I cross the stage in May but first I'll visit with a friend who returns home in August. My Immigrant friends return home to visit once a year or they skip a year so it'd be wise to visit this summer while they can guide me. In the meantime they help to ground sensationalized stories that come out of their native countries based on their experiences. In all, I'm not trying to be a hero of sort or attempting to lord over land but Africa is a great canvas to put what I've visioned to work. I don't want to accomplish this work under the banner of a relief org or NGO as this further perpetuates the messiah complex many Africans suffer from when seeing "great white hope".

They all agree that their govt will be the most difficult to work with. And Africans are smart, if they can't work with the govt of their native land to work with educated ex-pats, it seems very laughable for me to attempt to propose any ideas even with respectable American credentials.

Any ideas?

Hors Sfier

2/18/2014 10:51:44 am

@Td3
playa, when Tariq did that extended podcast on negro bed wenches I almost flew out of my chair. That psychology explained why 100% of my problems at work came from black women. Corporate America tolerates sassy, snooty, ghetto black women, especially relative to black men. The white women who acted the least bit out of line got checked and corrected. I once corrected an asian woman on her attitude and that woman later THANKED ME. She said that correction helped her to deal better with people. Can you imagine a black woman thanking you for correction?!?

What I learned from that experience is that you have to value yourself higer than the negro bed wench trying to coon. I got myself to a point where the corporate structure was more profitable working with me than entertaining a negro bed wench trying to bring me down. Oh..as for the negro bed wenches... their white daddies ending up marrying white women anyway.

As for black men, I think our goal should be to stabilize, coalesce and then cooperate. For example, black men who have independent money should start collaborating. The need for independent money means that no brother need beg another brother for a handout. Everyone brings some percentage to the table. I got a call from a brother today about a deal we could split. Even if it does not work out, I got my other money. He has his other money. No hard feelings on either side. Code and cash.

I hear what you are saying on buying land in Africa. I guess you have to have a connect who gets a mutual benefit from your presence. You also have to have some long term plan for that land. Success brings success so you can use that to attract more black people into the fold. That is really my focus. I want to be so fly that other black people are trying to get down while on their Ps and Qs.

IndigoBlk

2/15/2014 12:11:42 pm

Thanks for saying all this in the episode tariq, needed this

JP link

2/15/2014 08:26:49 pm

The Truth
01/24/2014 12:21am

Family I know you may not understand where I'm coming from (unless you've spent time in the Armed Forces or the 3 letter organizations; sitting with, congregating with, and bumping shoulders with the powers) but please try... all we've got is each other.

There are well known organizations that when you speak out agaisnt racism and white supremacy, the following happen:
1- Your phone, internet, and social means of communication are broken into, hacked, monitored, cut, blocked, and manipulated.
2- Agents follow you everywhere you go and legal problems start to come up.
3- ELF waves are used for the purpose of manipulating your thought patterns so you can get labeled insane and to flat out destroy your life.
4- Naturally, steps 1 to 3 are used for economic castration, and blackmail.
5- All the public hears about is the suicides and accidents that are in fact murders. But black on black crimes are so common that these murders are rarely intensely investigated.

By the way, all this is done in the military with your tax dollars. But, don't take my word for it. Here's two well know stories: Aaron Alexis and Christopher Jordan Dorner. Peace.

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The Truth01/24/2014 12:26am
Hey family

I only wrote this to let you guys know some of the rules of racism and racial politics that goes on higher up the food chain beyond your day to day workplace.

But first of all this is about what has happened and is still going on at Fort Sill in Oklahoma under the following people:

Colonel Gene Meredith,
Lieutenant Colonel Robert A Krieg and
First Sergeant Scott J. Schomaker,
Captain Joshua J. Phillips; to include
First Sergeant Leondra Felder.

I am an Intelligence Officer so I (obviously) can't say too much. My colleagues are taking part in these acts and they don't have the free will to say no.

More importantly, you guys need to know about the hell that our people are going through in these white organizations. The trick to it is that blacks have signed a contract to be in these organizations. That means when they speak out they are trapped and the whites can do whatever they want to them.

Torchy link

2/18/2014 07:52:57 pm

Tariq, since many don't do documents on this nor do any groups of people openly discuss it. I have idea for "Hidden Colors 4" it is intra-racism or inner racism, people always talk of others being racist but never with ones own people(s). We all look different, skin color, hair, facial features and so on. The issues in Latin America and even Arabia can be good examples.

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