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Ep.#31-"Killer Simps"

5/29/2014

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In this episode Tariq talks about the case of the killer Elliot Rodger and simps like him.
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We the people
5/28/2014 10:19:56 pm

He should of sent Stacey Dash a friend request.

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Robert
6/3/2014 04:41:14 am

@ 21:00 Tariq claims his "game" is not associated with pick-up artist but wants other pick-up artist to acknowledge the influence he's had on him. What fuckin' shit is that?!

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superman
5/28/2014 10:52:06 pm

Hes a hero :)

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tousen
5/28/2014 11:16:30 pm

This privileged little shit posses me off all the money and rights and still he ain't shit

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mackaDON
5/28/2014 11:34:37 pm

A rehash of sunday's ustream show.

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Player Supreme link
5/28/2014 11:45:06 pm

Tariq thanks for the shout out on your show. You are correct they are trying to associate me with pua's and this kid finally popping his dome due to a analysis video that I did on Elliot Rogers the day before he finally went out to accomplish his jacked up agenda.

I've had so many racially motivated hate comments since then it's not even funny bro.

You are also correct about these PUA stealing game ideas watering it down and turning it vanilla then recoining it and selling it back to their audiences!

It bugs!

Pz

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Bernadette Smith link
5/29/2014 02:05:18 am

I remember Trashman. He was funny, stalkerish, messy, and stupid all at the same time. He went to jail over the Gerber baby food situation. He got out and faded away.

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Hors Sfier
5/29/2014 08:30:42 am

Tariq that was an awesome show. I work in corporate America and I can tell you, no one obsesses over where black d1ck is going more than white men. Early in my career, white guys would ask me if I was into white girls. Different white guys in different cities. That was a weird question for a man to ask another. So that tipped me off to the insecurity.

As for Columbine, yes! Those guys were racists. I think in the movie Bowling for Columbine there is a clip of one of the Columbine high school girls who was there during the shooting saying specifically: "he shot the black kid because he was black"

Damn near everytime there is a mass shooting, law enforcement dig up some racist material, remember that mass shooting in Norway.
It must be horrible for a white man with money not to win one white woman over on charisma!!!

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Mr. Jon
5/30/2014 01:23:43 pm

White guys have a weird, unnatural obsession with black dick... It's kind of creepy!

They frequently ask white girls if/ how many black guys they've been with.

There is a VERY popular genre of porn called cuckold porn, all of these white guys have their white guys banging black guys and they seem to enjoy it more than the actual women do..........slightly

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Wise
5/29/2014 01:09:44 pm

I been listening to Tariq since he first started. I also listen to Stephen A. Smith when I get a chance. Both of them say some real shit. However Stephen A. Smith is not a coon at all. Either Tariq doesn't listen to Stephen A. on the regular or he really does not like seeing another Black man shining in the media. Stephen A. works for ESPN yet he's always bringing up racial issues on network television. Most sports hosts never go where he goes on the regular. A coon would not go at whites the way Stephen A does. People criticize him whenever he states what Black people should do. And the advice he gives be 100% correct. Pointing out that Mark Cuban is a scary acting guy whether it's a white guy with a baldy and tats or a Black guy with a hoodie does not means he's racist, it means he's scary. And Tariq should pump his brakes with all the coon talk, because him playing a character called the Congressional Pimp with Michael Moore was coonish. Reinforcing Black male stereotypes for the masses is some Stepin Fetchit shit. And it's obvious that Tariq wants to work with Tyler Perry that's why he gives him a pass for crossdressing in movies. Years ago Tariq used to diss cats crossdressing. Tariq spits great game and advice, but calling Black men coons that he disagrees with is some reckless shit.

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Hors Sfier
5/30/2014 06:21:30 am

"People criticize him whenever he states what Black people should do."

People should criticize Stephen A. That statement misses the point. It does not matter what black people are doing because the system de facto criminalizes black people. That's the whole point of the stop-and-frisk policy in NYC and Miami-Dade. The frisk to court appearance ratios are embarrassing, something like 1000 to 1, yet if you are black, brown or beige you are being hassled. Check out the recent report on Miami Dade and how the police chief explicitly ordered black men frisked. So what do black people "do" in that case? I used to think like Stephen A. until my head got right. There is an overarching system of collective punishment that comes down on ANY black, no matter what you wear or what you say. Only with black people does society cosign the concept of collective punishment. Everyone else bucks against that collar. As law-abiding as I am, I can end up in the same cell as a certified goon. That is what needs to be said, not that smokescreen of what black people need to do because not all black people are criminals. And as Tariq said, outside of specific pockets of poverty, crime in the black community is very low. So what do black people "do" friend?

As for Tyler Perry, I don't care for his cross-dressing but I can put his success in perspective. He can finance his own films. He actually puts out films featuring successful black couples who love each other. He caters to an audience that Hollywood didn't care about: black women. And finally and most importantly, Tyler makes his money off the black community. All he needs whites for is distribution. So yeah, that Madea is trash but if more black men had a self-starting spirit like that, the black community would be better off. Dude also got molested as a child so I can't judge him for assuming that feminine posture.

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Wise
5/30/2014 12:41:18 pm

Is there racism in this country towards Black people that "present" themselves well? Of course there is. But lets deal with the odds of you getting hassled if you are suited and booted. I'm speaking generally, not specific cases of racism. Being someone that grew up in one of the roughest cities in this country and eventually moved to the suburbs I can speak from both angles.

No one said that it's all good in this country and that racism has been eliminated. But if you for example get suited and booted everyday when you go to work and are a law abiding citizen, the chances are far less that you will be hassled then someone who presents himself with his pants hangin off his ass and tats on his neck. I mean let's keep shit 100.

How you present yourself matters. You don't see Tariq doing lectures in jeans and long white tees. You don't see Stephen A. hosting his show with a Polo shirt and a big ass chain. I notice the different level of respect that I get during my work week when I have a suit and tie and on the weekend when I might be rockin some Timberlands and jeans.

You seem to have this victim mentality where there is no hope because all of this racism is going to stop your flow. You know what, most people don't particular just like other people that they encounter. It is not one big love fest out here. Some of us love to make excuses for some cats deviant behavior then blame it on racism. Some cats are just acting buffoonish and need to be called out.

There is no debating that the stop and frisk laws target non whites at a much larger rate. But how many professional Black Men that for example work on Wall St have been hassled by stop and frisk laws? Is it right that other law abiding Black people that don't wear suits get stopped? Of course not, but appearances once again plays a part.

As far as Tyler Perry you are saying that the means justifies the ends? Well in that case let's excuse any Black person that engaged in coonery. I'm sure that Mantan Moreland and Stepin Fetchit helped out some Black people. Basically you are saying abandon your core beliefs and principles for a buck.This is where the problem lies. Black people will call out other Black peoples so called "buck dancing" then will excuse others doing the same shit. You just made a whole lot of excuses for Tyler. And it's not just Tyler Perry either. I did not like to see Eddie Murphy, Martin Lawrence, Wesley Snipes, Jaime Foxx, The Wayans Bros, Tracy Morgan and a few others doing that dumb shit. If you look at all of the athletes coming out, the flamin Black guys on these reality shows, the skinny jean wearing teenagers and the skirt wearing rappers then you should understand why I'm not a Tyler Perry fan. I applaud Denzel Washington for never doing a role in that manner.

Finally, a lot of people complaining about what happens in the "Black community" don't live in a majority Black community. Cats be living around mostly white people and dressing a certain way themselves, then want to tell other cats that appearances don't matter. There are plenty of Black suburbs where Black people are living well off and are not sitting around complaining, because they know how to play the game.

Hors Sfier
5/30/2014 03:11:03 pm

Nice try but you put up a lot of weak, bogus straw men arguments to knock down, as though I had presented them as justification for a victim mentality. Way to win a debate...with yourself.

You missed the point, as does Stephen A. Smith. I swear black people are the only ones who have an army of coons ready to cosign whatever nonsense a Bundy, Cuban or Sterling says. It really is a shame. I don't see anything close to this in any other ethnic group. Make your point but don't base it on those who seek your destruction. I come down hard on immature blacks but I don't need a white man's racism to fuel the critique.

You yourself just said that there is racism toward black people who present themselves well. So what exactly are you debating? Wasn't that the gist of the entire podcast? What is your point?

The first time I got frisked, I was a teen dressed like Steve Q. Urkel from Family Matters, so miss me with that b.s. about how your suit and boot will protect from a system that is designed to get you in jail. Luckily, I had nothing to warrant an arrest.

Why don't you address the Miami-Dade system of frisking black males *no matter what*? Why not address the nonsensical inefficiency of New York's stop-and-frisk policy? Why not address the recent reports on the absurdly high number of black kids penalized with expulsions starting from the age of 5? Or the disproportionate number who end up in special needs programs. All this stuff is well documented because it is SYSTEMATIC. What ever happened to the "knockout game" that the system was using to arrest more black males, even though crime IS DOWN OVER ALL? Black people like Tariq called it out. Then white hipsters started questioning it. A white former NYC cop on a panel on MSNBC said that the knockout game is justification for collectively arresting entire groups of black people, even if only one of them are involved. Look it up. Why are black people like you still in a fog? Do you need a white man to explain that to you so you get it, Stephen A.?

When did I ever say I was a fan of Tyler Perry's oeuvre? Oh this is another one of your straw men, where you can only learn from people who are perfect, right?. I stated facts about the man and his ability to a) finance his own work b) make money wholly off of the black community, specifically nominally christian black women. Again, are you just pretending to be this dense or do you not understand that these are necessary ingredients for a vibrant black economy. With respect to Mr. Perry, black people should eat the fish and spit out the bone. In other words, learn from his success and leave the rest alone. I hate the cross dressing in Hollywood but Mr. Perry has made plenty of profitable movies besides the Madea character, couples featuring heterosexual, successful black couples. So somehow those works don't exist because...because...? You are just fixated on the cross dressing. Keeping waiting on that black messiah who is without blemish. He'll teach you.

Wise
5/31/2014 12:32:42 pm

Let me address you again because you obviously lack reading comprehension skills. But first your little comment about straw men arguments was hilarious. You were the one to reply to my comment. You cherry picked certain things to respond to and then created some other shit to delve into. So who's really engaging in straw man arguments? The onus was on you to respond to my points. So marinate on that for a minute!

Secondly who the hell co-signed Cuban, Bundy, or Sterling? Now you are just lying and grasping at straws creating some dumb shit out of thin air. I said that Cuban strikes me as being more of a scary acting guy than a racist. But of course you missed that.

Now this is what really have me thinking that your are intellectually challenged. Whoever said that getting suited and booted will guarantee that you won't ever experience racism? I never said some stupid shit like that. What I did say was that wearing a suit and tie and obeying the law will greatly decrease your chances of getting hassled. Why would I make a blanket statement that a person would never get hassled with a suit and tie. I mean that is just idiotic on your part. Hell a person can hit the lottery, get struck by lightning, or bang Oprah. Ya dig! Don't reduce this little back and forth to some juvenile shit. By the way Mr. corporate American law abiding citizen, when was the last time you experienced a stop and frisk or even harrassment from the cops since you've been a professional? Probably never, which goes to my point of how you present yourself will greatly reduce your chances of getting bothered.

So I don't get accused of using straw man arguments, even though that's exactly what you did in not addressing all of my points, I'll hit on your points. You keep asking me to respond to your stop and frisk info. For what? I'm not arguing in favor of stop and frisk, I think the shit is terrible. You finally stated some shit that I agree with. There is no debate. Do you even live in N.Y. or Florida? because if you don't it's sort of odd that you are pulling stop and frisk stats out of thin air. Look duke, just flow off the dome like I'm doing. Don't go do some research and start googling shit to bolster your little arguments. That is lame as hell.

If you are giving Tyler Perry a pass for not being "perfect" then you sound like an imbecile for criticizing Stephen A. for giving his opinion. According to you no one is perfect so we should learn from everyone. Well with stupid logic such as that then I guess everyone is beyond being criticized.

You also mentioned that white guys are always asking you whether or not you are into white girls? Well what is it about you that you constantly get those types of questions? The white guys can probably see through your act and they can sense what you really want. Don't fake the funk on here trying to be the super pro-Black guy. I have a good office gig and before I settled down did not get silly ass questions like that. They probably can sense that Jungle Fever in you.

This shit has been too easy dispelling your lame attempts at trying to come at me. You are one of those cats that uses a couple of multi-syllable words and thinks that they are saying some profound shit when you really aren't saying anything.

I'll end it like this. I've been listening to Tariqs shows since he first started. I bought a couple of books and hit up a lecture. So obviously I support his movement. But that does not mean that I agree with everything he says. I am a grown ass man with my own opinions. I don't agree with a lot of shit that Stephen A says. Especially when he starts talking religion. I just felt that Tariq went too far calling Stephen A a coon.

As for you Hors Sfier, you have officially been ethered! When you get your intellectual weight up, then come back and holla at me!

Hors Sfier
5/31/2014 01:47:59 pm

I have "officially" been ethered? So this dude thinks he's Tommy Sotomayor now? That's all I need to know. Carry on homie. And I don't "holla" at dudes. That's suspect.

Wise
5/31/2014 05:00:02 pm

Suspect? Nah I'm a thorough cat, but you and your white male co-workers discussing your love for white women and who knows what else was some suspect shit. You disappointed me duke, with all of your psychobabble and lame rhetoric, I thought that you would respond better than that. It was cool to see you gracefully bow out and maybe you'll take this L as a learning experience.

Phaddi Snaxx
5/31/2014 11:04:57 pm

"Wise 06/01/2014 12:00am" I am saying you are full of baloney, these corporate white people are the most racist, because they use extra legal means to oppress you and you can't even call the law on them. Let them get Deloitte and Touche on you and use professional investigators and honeytrappers following you around daily, all the suits in your closet won't save you from their harassment. You are in a safe zone now, but let white people start accusing you of ANYTHING and watch those white "friendships" crumble into dust... you and Stephen Smith are the same, no wonder you don't think he's a coon...

Leo
5/29/2014 06:09:08 pm

Affluenza??....Are you serious???...How many mental illnesses are they going to pull out of their ass defend this nonsense. This dude let his anger and frustration blind him from a very important factor about women. Its not just the money that attracts them, as a matter of fact its not really the money at all, but the drive and determination that a man has to get money and be successful. This dude was born into a privileged life and pretty much every woman around L.A. knew it. They knew because of this he had to do very little to get where he was at in life and that in itself was a turn off to them. This dude should have took that energy and used it to try to establish something of his own separate from his father. Hell, if push came to shove move out of L.A. to do it! Women knew he was a spoiled little douche and wanted nothing to do with him. He let racial hatred and insecurity inhibit him from doing an HONEST examination of himself and creating a resolution to his issues....sad story.

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Money
5/29/2014 08:07:31 pm

You the real MVP Tariq!

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Mr. Jon
5/30/2014 01:27:20 pm

Lose me with the Steven A. Smith bullshit!

It takes literally NO balls to criticize black people.

"Blacks need to focus on school"
"Blacks need to change their priorities!"
"... stop committing crimes"

blah blah blah

Stop committing crime??? Oh, my, why didn't ANYONE ever think of that?

What takes balls is to call out an oppressive system that is the catalyst of all of these things to begin with. Anytime some negro goes off on the black community, whether it is Steven A. Smith or Bill Cosby, whites give them a pat on the head!

P.S.
Black people (when we want to dress up) dress WAAAAY better than white people. Don't believe me? Go to a white church versus a black church, you'll see what I mean.

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Sinatra
5/30/2014 03:29:05 pm

On the story with the dude who won prom queen, what I wanna know is who won prom king and how did that King and queen dance play out?

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Jae102
5/31/2014 07:11:29 am

To be honest the PUA now days don't use all that mystery method and David Deangelo Cocky funny bullshit. Now days a lot of the times like Sasha Pua, Simple Pickup, and a few others don't talk about that magic tricks, tricks, and routines. They actually advise against those things because it's not real or natural.

I do agree they do steal you stuff Tariq though. Craigs stole from the Mack within book in David Deangelo Approaching women DVD's and honestly if David Deangelo was trying to help men dating lives become more successful he should brought you on his Seminars and interviews with dating guru's. Then again he probably would've went out of business because you would laced game where they didn't need him anymore.

Last there are some black pua's like Justin Wayne.

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Jae102
5/31/2014 07:44:16 am

Tariq could you do a Macklessons Radio on Mack/Dating Expert vs PUA game?

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We the people link
5/31/2014 07:57:09 am

Can you do a show like China's "1 out of 100"? Since you are a dating expert. This show in China is basically a way for them to program modern thinking. They use the show to program modern social values into their viewers. Many of these people aren't really looking for a date.

Contestants use the show to become local celebrities and the writer coerce them to express things to mold modern values. It would be a perfect show. Perfect positive "propaganda" for the black and American community. What do you think? (FYI, i'm not sure if this show originally came from China.)

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Billy-Can
5/31/2014 09:50:44 am

I find this Elliot Rogers kid to be very interesting and sad. His case is eye opening in a way. I'm almost finished reading his manifesto and can confidently say I've been in his shoes and understand where he was coming from. The awkward high school career, and how I had to buy sex first in college to UNDERSTAND that isn't what the goal is. That made us different but all the feelings were similar.

His father Peter Rodgers truly is a weak man and didn't see his first son as his own. The lack of courage he showed toward his girlfriend and lack of leadership in his family life really effected Elliot in more ways than he notes. The father and mother had money but where internal failures (if not for the old money whites would crumble under there own insecurities). Elliot had no Asian pride because his mother was a goal digger for white d*ck. I have Asian friends, if your mixed with anything else "you don't get to be Asian" (Keanu Reeves).

I would've liked to have known him and co-written something with him. I know kids a lot like him and I've helped them re-examine their motivations in life (i.e. stop gaining self worth from women and how hollow the victories are). Tarqi is right to say that many geeks (those that shy away from the world) feel rage at women. Saying he was a racist is a stretch. He was a normal nerd, for him to say a few comments about Black men on a forum somewhere is normal for a non-black nerd kid (remember he was 22). I've known many Asian people and the jealousy he felt is normal for them, Black men ARE built better. A larger portion of us are attention whores (due to a lack of stable homes) and fall into the jock/ bully role very easily.

I should know as a Black nerd, but I've actually turned down blonde white women for sex, in that way we are different. I would have wished that for him. All he had to do was humble himself to actually experience sex on his terms, but he chose the jealous murder route.

I blame his weak divorced parents (as I always do) and Elliot himself for not befriending the other odd kids around him (in high school I had one of the most stable loyal groups of friends, because we excepted one another).

Girls are going to be girls, but he didn't have to become part of the problem. So sad my generation, it's not gay for men to emotionally support one another.

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teena barket
6/27/2014 11:26:50 am

First time radio listener, but many times listener for hidden colors 1, 2, and 3. I love the discussions and slick, jazzy background music. Keep up the good work.

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teena barker
6/27/2014 11:34:55 am

Tariw, I did not know you used such flavorable language. I like it though. The language fits well with the passion of the explanation. Cool

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teena
6/27/2014 11:37:58 am

I meant, Tariq. The English, American, and Webster dictionary will not accept, " Tariq"

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