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Ep.#44-"Money Stops BS"

9/3/2014

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In this episode Tariq talks about people who try to avoid talking about  economic empowerment.
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JJ
9/3/2014 04:42:01 pm

damn the same topic every show now. okay dawg group economics we get it next topic!

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Wil
9/3/2014 06:50:55 pm

Exhibit A of the "Slave Mind" right here....
This podcast was made specifically for you....smh

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Example No1
9/3/2014 08:30:45 pm

Congrats JJ, you're the first to prove Tariq's point.

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Wave
9/4/2014 04:41:23 am

Damn JJ you take a L for that one.

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^This nigga right here
9/4/2014 06:13:21 am

that the point he keep say it over and over but some still don't do it.

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Royydicce
9/3/2014 05:31:54 pm

Great show money talks even scarface knew that...lol economics needs to be broke down step by step for our people

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music box
9/3/2014 06:25:46 pm

What's the artist name and song name at the intro of this episode. I can't find it any where

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Very true
9/3/2014 08:33:05 pm

A lot of black people are afraid and don't want to do what it takes to becomes empowered, because that takes responsibility and self-sacrifice.

Like the Spider Man message: With great power comes great responsibility.

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I mean what I say
9/3/2014 11:31:41 pm

Watch "Dej Loaf - "Try Me" Prod By. DDS" on YouTube
Dej Loaf - "Try Me" Prod By. DDS: http://youtu.be/9uenWk9hxMw

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We The People
9/3/2014 11:47:51 pm

You'll probably lose money discussing this. These simpletons don't want to hear about group economics. That's two hurdles you have to jump! Be economical and then be economical as a group. TWO HURDLES!!! Most people, not just black people, can't even jump the first one!

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james james
9/4/2014 04:10:39 am

I like how tariq from time to time will say, "if it's gone go down, fuck it let's get it on then." we need to run off some of these people who just want to be seen. that just like to talk.

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Common Progress link
9/4/2014 12:11:39 am

Thank you so much for this podcast! I've been preaching about the important of money and economics as a means for social/political change for a long time. This podcast is much needed!

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We the People
9/4/2014 12:19:14 am

Constantly listening to music clouds judgement! I know black people who can't go one day without the fucking radio turned off, or mp3 player in their ear. Music is a tool to learn about the world but it outlives it's usefulness. Now I just use to uplift my mood.

But since I stopped drowning myself in a bunch of songs, my thoughts are more clear and crisp than they have ever been.

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O.G. Readmore
9/4/2014 01:31:30 am

I agree. Black people dont realize how much the music we support has altered and help to shape some negative aspects of our culture. When you have generations growing up listening to some of the stuff being put out, its no wonder why some have the self and community destructive mentality they have. Take care in what you put into your mind and body.

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Hors Sfier
9/4/2014 01:13:35 am

Man, that is the truth. Black people these days are known for producing ratchet culture that white people can slum to. We don't even make money off that ratchet culture. Miley Cyrus does. That girl made more money off of twerking than every black woman on the planet combined. It is easy for black people to be disposable. Get rid of the Asians and you are in trouble. Get rid of the blacks...?

The point remains we need to keep going until black people are net producers. I know white men who have started 2-3 successful businesses over the past 10 years. Every white man I know who can is moving toward being an employer over an employee. I know a lot of black people with talent yet their sole ambition is to make VP in someone white man's company. Smh.

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edscottable
9/4/2014 02:56:38 am

How did I initiate group economics in my circle? I was at a birthday party for my cousin's daughter. They have a nice lil starter home with two nice new cars. Me and her husband was sitting in the backyard watching the kids play in the moonwalk with a big ass pool with a slide to it. We sipping our beer and my man say, man this water bill gone be high as a motherfucker. I was like, its worth it these kids having a ball. He was like, yeah, but his face said damn! So I peeled off a couple hundred and gave it to him. I said you got a good heart man setting this up for the kids and I appreciate you inviting us into your home. Now, all this economic empowerment stuff that used to fall on deaf ears, they listening to me now. Now me and a few friends and cousins are working on buying all our houses down in the same cul de sac. Next I'ma try to get them to go to the gun range with me so I ain't got to be alone with my wife in their with all them crazy looking ass white men in there.

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BlackHercules link
9/4/2014 04:00:37 am

Now that's whats up.

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jhallx
9/4/2014 05:30:39 am

Absolutely.

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Brother J
9/4/2014 07:33:55 am

Can ya help me spread this Malcolm X video compilation that I put together. It's relevant to this topic.
Trying to spread this video among black folks and asking them why is it that what Malcolm X is saying in the video is still relevant.

Malcolm X Speaks on Black Economics

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UtGPZY4Rr4

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We The People link
9/5/2014 05:02:14 am

There's a NEW AFRICAN restaurant downhere in Houston that just opened up on the corner of Chinatown but I can't for the life of me find out who owns it. Here's the link:
http://www.flavorscuisine.oatglobal.com/our-menu.html

From the website I don't see anything inside the restaurant that is represenative of black american culture. However, better than nothing.

Side-Note:
Did you know that white boy groups like N'sync promote white male unity? Some look like they are irish, some look like they are spanish, etc. Can you imagine an R&B group that had a jamaican, Haitian, african-american, and nigerian singing together? That's promoting black male unity. It sets codes of conduct for how people should act by being an example. Media (video, posters, audio) should be the orchestrator of behavior.

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Runway Boyz link
9/4/2014 08:53:57 am

Great Show! Keep the hot fire coming!

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Me
9/4/2014 11:29:46 am

I am currently reading the book Our Black Year by Maggie Anderson, about a family in Chicago who decided to shop at only black businesses for a year. I haven't finish the book yet but I think every Black person should read that book! It's an eye-opener.

She is on youtube too.

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Leo
9/4/2014 05:35:02 pm

Money talks bullshit runs a marathon...
-Nino Brown

At some point we are going to have to wing ourselves off of white folks titty. They dont care about us and quite frankly want us wiped out of existence. I always think of the cartoon Voltron. Each individual robot was weak and damn near useless in a fight but when they all linked up they became an unstoppable force of nature. An indestructible machine anniailating its enemies.

Black People lets be an economical Voltron.

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We the People
9/5/2014 05:03:34 am


There's a NEW AFRICAN restaurant downhere in Houston that just opened up on the corner of Chinatown but I can't for the life of me find out who owns it. Here's the link:
http://www.flavorscuisine.oatglobal.com/our-menu.html

From the website I don't see anything inside the restaurant that is represenative of black american culture. However, better than nothing.

Side-Note:
Did you know that white boy groups like N'sync promote white male unity? Some look like they are irish, some look like they are spanish, etc. Can you imagine an R&B group that had a jamaican, Haitian, african-american, and nigerian singing together? That's promoting black male unity. It sets codes of conduct for how people should act by being an example. Media (video, posters, audio) should be the orchestrator of behavior.

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Hors Sfier
9/6/2014 01:44:50 am

@We the People
Yeah, this is going to be an essay so skip it if it is too wordy.

"Can you imagine an R&B group that had a jamaican, Haitian, african-american, and nigerian singing together?" I can imagine that quite easily. That is a money making idea right there, especially on the east coast. I guarantee that would sell, especially to the over 25 black American, who is pretty much neglected outside of black gospel music..The music from those communities is not as segregated as white history would have you think. For example, after listening to Fela Kuti, I started thinking maybe HE was the real originator of funk. And African House is doing what is impossible for black American pop. But I digress...

Recently, I got into this style of African music from Angola called Kizomba. At Kizomba events, I run into Africans, Black Americans, AfroCaribbeans and AfroLatinos. There are also a lot of white and mestizo Latinos and a fair number of ethnically European white people in that scene as well, cause you know white people can't stand the thought of black folks having fun somewhere, with no violence, just love and they(white people) are not invited. But I digress..

The point that I am making is that over the years, I have noticed a lot more cooperation between blacks and Africans, specifically at a social level. African women who would turn their noses up at my game spittin' back then cooperate now, chiefly because a) black Americans need the community b) Africans know that white supremacy will mess with them irrespective of ethnic group, language, tribe etc. Remember Kony 2012? That white supremacist does not give a damn.
You might have some crusty hold outs from the older generation but the system treats you the same. So I have been delighted to embrace and be embraced my African distant relatives. Last night I was at a house party with Ghanaian, Haitian, Brazilian, Nigerians, Cameroonians, Kenyans and so forth. It was all LOVE once that jungle beat came on EVERYONE was jamming to the same energy. That is why the white supremacist destroyed the black music, because that music got everyone to be on time with the same agenda. Hmmmm.

King Solson is coming
9/5/2014 08:04:29 am

Flex calls it, "Group Economics..." rudimentary at best, all economic systems that elevated a people to power was group based..... we need to create a new ECONOMIC SYSTEM... The one Solson will create, "communal capitalism" which means communally owned assets, worker owned enterprises, apprenticeships with practical experience instead of bullshit ass colleges, our own media conglomeration, our own political representatives, our own mercenaries, our own financial institutions (credit unions not banks), our own spiritual system, even our own occultic societies, Until ANY OF YOU NIGGAS/Negus, and niglets wanna be part of the solution you'd be talking about SOME of the areas I just named, but until then you all, including flex are just gonna be chasing tails and asking pointless ass question. Let any of you NEGUS (nigga= never ignorant getting goals accomplished........ nigga+nigga= Negus), who have the nuts to be visionary and legendary instead of reminiscing on what Malcolm, Mlk did then lets start this dialogue, lets put in this work.

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Oh wise one....
9/5/2014 09:35:26 am

Who the fuck is reminiscing. What is your plan to get this all started.

The blueprint was written in a book called The Mis Education of The Negro, but folks still have yet to take heed.

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King Solson
9/5/2014 12:25:59 pm

We can't afford to use an economic blueprint from a book that was published in the 1930s. This is a war we are in, how do we use an economic blueprint from 70 years ago when this country was barely exiting a depression to combat this deliberate neoliberalism and gentrification we're seeing? As far as my plans go? Mah nigga the game is sold not told, there will be a pamphlet to come out explaining everything, from pooling assets together in the drug trade, (don't get it twisted the streets is where the change is gonna come from), to worker owned enterprises, to communally owned funded debt for NEW black businesses, to mortgage backed debt owned by members of credit unions, etc... I don't have the title KING for no reason and you WILL bow before me 1 way or another for the way communal capitalism will shape black and brown lives for the next 1000 years..

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Hors Sfier
9/6/2014 01:56:49 am

Man, I read that book by Carter Woodson and in a lot of ways that matter, we are still in the 1930s. Jim Crow is real. A lot of what is needed is for the black people who spend their time attention whoring and their money on nigger trinkets to invest that time and money into selling something, anything toward a path of financial independence. All of the other stuff you talk about is moot without that mindset. I was in Italy a while back and was amazed at how many hustling Indians and Bangladeshis I saw. Those boys would set up a stand and sell you as much bootleg Gucci as you could carry. Some of those stands, I was told, were sold to them by the older, retired Italians. That is the move we need.

I hope you are joking about the whole drug trade being any type of base. The drug trade is the most infiltrated game out there. The "streets" have jack to show for almost 30 years of being the dominant force in black America. The streets are more useless than black entertainers. Black street gangs in LA are being flushed out by stronger, faster and more aggressive Latinos. All of those black street gangs could not protect any of the middle class blacks being scared out of their LA neighborhoods. The streets had its chance. Now the business squares need to step up.

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King Solson
9/5/2014 12:38:53 pm

Btw Credit Union is the way we need to go. Black folks can't do shit until they become financially literate, and knowing the difference between a bank and credit union is 1 area that needs enlightenment. But the credit union, which means that everybody as a member of shares in the profits... If black folks had a credit union that was akin to the fake jews and their federal reserve system then think of the possibilities and power that plays. You have a big credit union that supercedes everything, then you have some that are occupation specific, the credit union buys majority ownership of a corporation.... voila now you have members of the credit union are now stockholders which means what? Voting rights... the credit union buys houses at discounts.. You know the communally owned enterprise that the credit union owns? Well somebody is gonna need a home, they're already members of this credit union, now we have the option of a no interest loan to our brother or sister. Oh the credit union buys stock, it returns let's say 15% this year, everybody is entitled to a piece of the portion of their money which was used to invest.. that's just scratching the surface of what King Solson has in store. Yes I said reminiscing. We had our black wall street- they burnt it down, we had malcolm, they shot him, we had martin, they sent his ass white women and they still shot him, we had the black panthers, it was infiltrated and neutralized, we had tupac and public enemy, etc - they were suppressed. We have to put it All together now..

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King Solson
9/9/2014 01:39:56 pm

I know it seems absurd, but I'm dead serious about the drug game now obviously not cocaine, opium or anything else the cia smuggles, but what's wrong with using a house that our community owns and using it as a grow house... Niggas gonna smoke anydamnway we might as well be making the tax free profit behind it instead of some bob marley idolizing hippy ass white kid... it's more of a pipe dream than anything because what it would take is, getting all the ogs, the pis, the hustlers, in the hoods on the same agenda. But that would require turning these young niggas out here onto some game... tell me what's the difference between bank of america or wachovia laundering drug money from cartels and using that money that's not accountable to still circulate, and us using money from weed, xos, whatever the fuck and creating jobs... and my nigga, where else can we arm ourselves better than the streets... who we need to be is hezbollah in Lebanon and syria, they recruit at 16 or 17, and them kids are willing to die for their freedom.. our 16 and 17 year Olds are being killed for no damn reason, but these niggas too focused on them J's or the lil waynes of the world. Any thing anybody ever says about bloods and crips and other gangs remember where did they start as? Turning gangbang in into what it ended up being was a 15 year conspiracy by cointelpro. As far as the young niggas out there "hustling" and gangbanging, these niggas aint real they just sell a couple zips, get busted and tell on everybody, the effeminizaton of us is a deliberate tactic as well... like tariq said a couple weeks ago... Niggas used to riot and take weapons... 1 of our brothers get killed everybody all of a sudden a Facebook black panther until love and hip hop come back on

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King Solson
9/9/2014 01:49:28 pm

Another thing.... the latino gangs... the fact is, the latino family structure was never destroyed... but that stems from the prevalence of catholicism... even tho catholic priest are sick fucks and satanic, the church does a good job of promoting the family... don't believe me? Italian mafia- catholics, the irish mob- catholics I'm not saying these motherfuckers are some kind of catholic fundamentalist, I'm just saying those values are steeped deeply in their blood... This is what I mean by we needing to have our own spiritual system as well and honestly for those actively involved, they would especially have to be on the same wavelength spiritually, and shit why the fuck not, being the most melanin dominate race and the images of the gods themselves... King Solson is going to manufacture, and cultivate it (our communally capitalist system) you welcome to come along for the ride, but you'll be considered a terrorist if you real

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satch
9/10/2014 09:59:05 am

I hope you are joking about the whole drug trade being any type of base. The drug trade is the most infiltrated game out there. The "streets" have jack to show for almost 30 years of being the dominant force in black America. The streets are more useless than black entertainers. Black street gangs in LA are being flushed out by stronger, faster and more aggressive Latinos. All of those black street gangs could not protect any of the middle class blacks being scared out of their LA neighborhoods. The streets had its chance. Now the business squares need to step up.

i noticed he said nothing really when you hit him with this because it is 100% truth the bros really got nothing out of the drug game but death disease and jail.that stuff about the crips and bloods standing by while we got pushed out is a crime, but they would shoot us for nothing

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