Game was STELLAR on this one fam! Much respect!!!!!!!
Tarriq, thank you brotha, I see why lower income black men struggle so much, a lot of us are completely off the radar from most American society. We don't fit into any circles at all.
Tariqnasheed is a Capitalist. He's a mack pimpin you guys to finance and buy informative and useful information you can read and research for yourself for FREE. Tariqnasheed you conscious muthafucker
Elder Flex just drop some SERIOUS Know ledge this just went over so many folks heads much respect!
This was a real thorough conversation and thank you for dropping some serious knowledge. I always felt that way.
Drinking champagne out of her ass lol
"That's an argument to really stifle growth." "Debate petty non sequitur."
This shit is NOT petty. To say that is to completely ignore reality. ""WHITE"" supremacy is a concept that anybody that isn't closer to white is inferior.
The Kunta Kinte scene was about maintaining his pride. You expect us to abandon our pride, our beliefs and become a ho for money? Yea Fuck you dude. You expect people to just blindly follow your beliefs and give you money without seeing were its going? Biracials aren't black no matter how hard you or society tries to make them to be and yes that includes Fredrick Douglass(Don't get the wrong Idea I am not discrediting his legacy). Nobody is saying light-skinned blacks aren't black that's just foolish. Its funny that you try to bring up slave mentality. A slave doesn't think for his future or well being but rather the stresses of the present. So when you say that we shouldn't question the colorism that is prevalent within our society you're asking us not too think of our future(genetic annihilation) but to focus on the present(money).
Everybody has an agenda and yours is rather questionable. Are you doing this specifically for black people? As in AFRICAN-Descent. Or are you trying to include everybody? such as: Tahitians, Australian Aborigines, Hebrew Isrealites, and other people who don't identify(or deny themselves) as African. Or you're simply just doing this to fill up your bank account. I'm not going to build my own guillotine so that a 1/14 black person can behead me. And I'm not going to follow someone who wants us to abandon all of our identity for money.
I don't know why I'm directing this at tariq. Since he only read dumbass twitter messages.
Shut up, troll. And fuck off.
You didn't refute my argument. You just went straight to insults. Is that how you dudes roll then you guys are dumber than I thought.
basically tariq is all about get money to get power.He drops great knowledge but some of his shit is questionable so just take the knowledge and act on your own.
Hes a human if you know thyself you know damn well tariq isnt perfect so i sugest people dont take him as a leader but more like a motivator to TAKE ACTION--thats what matters and thats why most of his critics cant really take him down cause HE DOES TAKE ACTION (good or bad) alot of people only talks so he always got that advantage on his side....
Agreed Razor..very true!
I cosign razor.
@razor he takes action because he's pushing to get the funds for his pockets oops i mean hiddencolors lol. He's a motivator to hustle you American Negros out your money. Thats it. A lot of yall are not gonna like what im saying. Some of yall gonna call me a Coon. Get over me for my opinion. It is what it is. Tariqnasheed aka @hors is Race Hustling you guys to fund his Business @Vince R
I just going to start by saying the only reason that you have racial pride is because of white supremacy. Tariq is clearly a student of Neely Fuller and he isn't looking for you to follow him he is suggesting that black people create a code and empower themselves financially because 90% of the people in the usa work for small businesses. Leaders can be killed or discredited but a strong code will live on and only become refined over time.
He started the kicker to fund his films and the money donated to the melanoid nation goes to who ever he feels needs it the most.
Also NO non-white person is qualified to determines racial classifications
What are the qualifications for being black? Be very specific.
Consign my brother!!!
ok scott biracials arent black so what now how we combat white supremacy how we remove the shackles
I agree with Tariq on certain things, like ignoring coons and what not and focus on getting a economic base. But Ignoring colorism in society is something that we should NOT ignore. The very fabric of white supremacy is based on colorism, that is why the word white is first. You cant be against white supremacy if you ignore white colorism. Its Extremely contradictory.
""I just going to start by saying the only reason that you have racial pride is because of white supremacy."" ""he is suggesting that black people create a code and empower themselves financially""
How are we supposed to get a code of conduct to get power if we have no racial pride or identity? We can't do shit individually.
That has nothing to do with the questionable remarks Tariq made. Is it really necessary for me to write out all my plans to combat white supremacy?
Who invented colorism? White people.
Why did they invent colorism? To divide and conquer.
After white supremacists get the black, they will get the biracials/mixed etc. The terms biracial and mixed are relatively new.
White supremacy will never accept biracials/mixed as equals, just allies of convenience. So again, what wisdom is there in turning away mixed/biracials who ride with us when it counts? Please explain how that makes sense strategically.
Scott, I think you could learn a thing or two by analyzing this from an economic perspective. Given the fact that we only have a limited amount of time and resources available on this planet, we have to make sure that we use them most efficiently. Tariq's argument is that debating whether or not biracial people are black may have some importance, but it is clearly not the best use of our time or energy. Look at the type of response Tariq's comments on biracial people evoked from you. You replied by cursing him out, questioning his motives, implying that he's stealing money, and you mocked his ideology and by extension his viewers. Now tell me, how can you possibly advocate this as being the most efficient use of our time? Why would we take time away from building an economy as people like Jason Black, Tariq, and Claude Anderson have shown is possible and instead debate and inevitably end up name calling and severing ties with one another because we can't agree on who is black?
Here we have a man who has produced the most informative and influential black history documentary series EVER that has undoubtedly affected millions and yet you criticize, accuse and slander his name over a petty difference. The hidden colors series has generated business for dozens of black owned bookstores across the nation and has created the opportunity for promoters to make money through paid screenings around the country - yet you come here to promote your petty ideology and criticize. Tariq has donated thousands to individuals around the globe - yet you nitpick and criticize.
How dare some no name anonymous poster with no track record of doing anything for the melanoid community come in here and talk shit to somebody who has done so much!
I'm sure you'll miss the message in my post and instead try to debate your moot point instead of seeing the big picture - we're in this together so there's no need in cutting ties with powerful allies over such a small issue.
I guess its like Marcus Garvey said - we are a race cursed with petty differences...
First off lol at you negroes on here typing essay papers. Yall make sure to get enough rest for class tomorrow lol...jk
Second,being black is a state of mind not a skin color. I will take one light skinned Dr Phil Valentine over 500 dark skinned Tommy Soto da frauds any damn day.
We need to be focused on acquiring power,wealth and influence so we can stop surviving and start living the greatness we are instead of this petty irrelevant colorism bs. Also,how about we focus on becoming a boss instead of banging the boss's daughter....
Just a thought...
Until I heard Tariq's comments on Sunday with regards to Afrobabe,I was all about supporting him and thought he was dropping some hot fire. After hearing him blatantly LOSE an argument with the young lady from Toronto it was clear that HE has an agenda..to pad his pockets. Listen, he was litterally dominated in his discussion with Afrobabe and instead of LISTENING to her and her points which were extremely valid HE kept spinning the debate and telling HER that she was all over the place.lol.wow Tariq,your previous show was about logic over emotion and you let your EMOTION and EGO let u sound like a dumb ass. Now,instead of reflecting on what was said in the discussion, you continue to spin and distort the point of her arguement...That the one drop rule is A WHITE SUPREMECIST tactic used AGAINST black people. For anyone calling my comments bullshit or about to call me a troll, please just take a few minutes and go on YouTube and listen to Tariq Nasheed V.S Afrobabe...it's hilarious the size of the"L" he took with her and how she kept her cool and kept picking him apart..Damn dude,be a man and admit when your wrong..or perhaps you were so adamant on disagreeing with her because YOU are in sn interracial realtionship...Whatever your motives were for so blatantly disregarding the truth she was speaking,you exposed yourself as a damn spinster. In the realm of dating and making YOU ARE the authority but once you switched over to "fighting white supremacy", you are not even close to having Game..the whole black economic empowerment movement was out way before you...your just trying to get paper from it,not fully being knowledgeable or SINCERE on everything you claim to be..sad,sad,sad because you have such a huge fan base and can make a difference but when you have arguements like the one last Sunday with Afrobabe,you degrade your own efforts. Lastly, why if your last 3 documentaries are sooo successful (meaning profitable ) do u aspire to raise more than your target goal of 60k for the next project? Why aren't the profits from part 1,2,and 3 going to make a fly number 3? Or to actually hire REAL editors and film staff to help make the documentaries? Because while the CONTENT of part 1,2,and 3 was great, my 8 year old could edit and make less low budget looking documentary with your budget. The CONTENT was excellent but the EXECUTION was hanky as fuck..please let the professionals handle the production and not cutting corners and saving money by putting out such an inferior product. 7a.m from the preview I saw was farrr better than all 3 Hidden colors production wise so take a clue from "the black authority" please. Where are all the profits from hidden colors actually going cuz it seems since you started making good money selling them,you've been on ALOT of vacations all over the world?? Let me stop,because anyone who disagrees with you is CLEARLY a troll,lol...
Man, I heard Afrobabe on Tariq's show Sunday. She's called in before and had made excellent points in the past. I don't know what happened to her but she took the loss on that one. She lost me when she brought up the Aaliyah movie, Iggy Azalea and all of these other random hypothetical situations. Afrobabe was really upset that white media prefers light skinned black women.
Her whole point was that black people should shed allies who happen to have a white parent/grandparents. Meanwhile, we are still stuck with sellouts like Sowell, Stacey Dash and Larry Elder. That is the essence of her argument.
Racial Integrity Act of 1924 or THE ONE DROP RULE.
Explain now Scott.....
Racial Integrity Act of 1924 or THE ONE DROP RULE.
Explain now Scott.....
I agree... but i refuse to hate on a man whose getting his money.
however, i do believe that a person who is bi-racial, particularly
50%black and 50%white, are not black. now that doesn't make them "better than" or "less than" nor does it even prevent them from identifying with the black experience in no way, shape, fashion or
form. but do the math, tariq, numbers don't lie!! on your show you speak on logic quite frequently, so how can you miss this? its simple arithmetic.
why can't mariah or halle be identified as white?
why must they be considered black when its 50/50?!
...that faulty mindset and/or logic is more 'white
supremacist' than a noose hanging from an oak tree.
by the way, half of my fam are bi-racial, so this is not
at all a personal affront against those who are bi-racial.
i jus beg to differ with THAT LOGIC... respectfully, of course.
Originally, I thought it was insulting to consider a mixed person black... as if our black blood tainted them. As if being white had to be associated with purity, whereas we blacks can claim anything.
Now, however, it makes sense to me to consider a mixed person as black.
Their phenotype is almost always that of a black person's. And society always sees them as black. And race is basically just a social construct anyway...
so if society considers you black YOU ARE BLACK
I mean, so many white Americans hate Barack Obama. Do you think they ever consider that he's half white like them also?
Do you think they ever say "I'd call him a nigger, but he isn't fully black!"
Not a chance.
Call in to his USTREAM, dude. I can tell you feel strongly about the podcast, so CALL IN AND VOICE YOUR OPINION WITH HIM. I doubt very seriously that Tariq (or his assistant Ola) even look at these comments...
Isnt he kinda contradictin himself??1st he says the bi racial discussion isnt important then he goes in on how interracial relantionship end up increasing white population,well isnt that the point from the people disscussing the biracial mixed stuff??
Arent lightskin the product of interracial relantionships??Good show but to paraphrase Tariq he was "all over the place" lol seriously not to diss but it was kinda confusing
Lightskin isnt a product of interracial relationships. Its part of our gene pool. They're lightskin people in Africa. Certain tribes, such as the Fulani/Yoruba/Igbo have lightskin black people.
once again scott how we combat white supremacy quit deflecting answer question
There are different levels to the game. On one end of the spectrum, when it comes to white supremacy and dominating non-whites, they don't give a damn about a biracial. The prison reference was apt. There is no way a biracial prisoner is hanging with the Aryan Nation, Latin Kings etc. Real talk. He is going to go over to the black side, which is better in the sense that it ups the number on the black side. It seems that prison life makes certain rules very clear, very quickly. People in prison want to survive and will make alliances of necessity rather than get into their feelings I saw a prison documentary that had a SouthEast Asian Crip, probably Vietnamese or Cambodian, sporting blue and all that. The Asian Crip, soon as he got into prison, joined an Asian gang. Imagine that.
I think in the same documentary there was a mixed Asian, part Latino and part Asian. He made the choice to join the Asian gang.
As for the distraction piece OUTSIDE of the prison complex, I can see his point. While white people are in the woods on firearms and self-defense, Latinos are openly talking about reclaiming the SouthWest, Asian are amassing economic clout...black people are arguing about ..........whether Halle Berry... .is black ....enough. I mean, we are just ripe for the picking. We get pushed out by damn near everyone. Any group of people from anywhere in the world can come to the USA and in one generation run our neighborhoods
My thing is if you claim black and are willing to throw a punch for the cause, then I will claim you. Some of the most hardcore. problack peopleI have met in my life have been very light skinned black women. So when the ish goes down, are we seriously not going to welcome them at our side? White people will claim Arabs, Latinos, etc to up their numbers. But we want to get into endless debates as to whether Tiger Woods or Obama are black? Do black people really have that much time on our hands? Simple question are you helping or hindering white supremacy? Any other questions are insanity.
I absolutely agree! We're sitting here arguing over who's "bi racial" and who's not,and we're all getting fucked over by systematic racism.
Well Your last questions is where it gets confusing to me cause like Tariq said in the podcast those mixed blacks do end up procreating with white people.
Thats why its confusing in one hand he says it doenst matter if Tiger Woods or Obama are black but then he says that those mixed kids will play a big role in white supremacy,like he said they end up with white partners and make kids that look white...
That looks a bit confusing and your post didnt really clarified it,basically he says dont condemn the older mixed people but also dont create a new generation of them??
@razors no offense and I am not taking cheap shots but sometimes focus on the forest and not the trees. Maybe my area is a statistical anomaly but almost all of the biracial women I know married or exclusively date black men. The few biracial women I know who do date white men grew up in the suburbs so my perspective differs from Tariq's.
Tariq is not The Machine from Person of Interest. He passes on information and those of us with brains filter out the relevant parts. His podcast on The Negro Bed Wench explained all the nonsense I saw between black women and white men in corporate America. When Tariq says something confusing, I file away for future reference.
The overarching theme of this podcast is that white supremacy has one goal: to divide and conquer. Say white supremacy managed to kill all of the black people. The biracial people HAVE to know they are next on the list. And as for mixed kids replenishing the white stock I *kind of* get the point in terms of the declining white birth rate. It makes strategic, long term sense.
However, in the *IMMEDIATE*, white supremacy is whipping our tails. Today. This minute. White supremacy does not need mixed kids *now* because it is straight dominating black people NOW. What Tariq is talking about is on some 40 year plan tip. Make sure any mixed kid end up getting folded back into the white population to boost its numbers, same way white people claim Arabs,...etc
Umm isn't peanut biracial? That's his logic, I understand what you are saying Scott. We are always putting everybody else first instead of Blacks that have a higher status in society than biracial people.
Agreed. Tariq didn't really go in on the bedwenches. He kinda bashed black men dating white women, when we all know more black women are dating interacially. I guess since his sister married a white guy, he holds his tongue. Also, he knows a lot of black women listen and buy his material, so he'll contradict himself a lot by saying "nothing is wrong with dating interracial", then go on a massive rant about how black men date outside their race. No one needs to date outside their race, in our community period. Sorry, but this show was very lack luster and didn't really get into the meat of the problem. You can't go soft on these sellouts.
I think your logic is a bit flawed. I hate to seem like an asshole but your argument that Tariq didn't go in on bed wenches since black women buy his products seems a bit strange seeing as how he has done multiple shows about bed wenches in the past and he frequently uses the word to describe women who exhibit bed wench behavior.
I also don't think he contradicts himself by saying nothing is wrong with dating interracial because at the most basic level this statement is true. There isn't anything inherently wrong with dating interracial as I'm sure you can see that it is logically possible for a black person who is for melanoid empowerment to get with someone who isn't of the same race but is also down for the movement, and then for the couple to raise children who are proud of their melanin and eventually go on to continue the cycle of melanoid empowerment. You may argue that this is less likely to happen if the parents are not both black (which may not be true as evidenced by the overwhelmingly large coon population whom were raised entirely by blacks), but to say it is a contradiction is simply not true.
I also don't think he "bashed" black men for dating white women but he simply pointed out that often times interracial relationships are not born out of love but a desire to intermix with whites, coon ideology, self hatred or any one of the many mental illnesses that plagues the our community.
When you say that no one needs to date outside our race, I understand the sentiment from which the statement proceeds but I just don't think it's practical or necessarily true, based on my statements above. I think a more practical approach is the one Tariq preaches which is that if you are going to date outside of your race make sure you're doing it for the right reasons. Make sure that your spouse isn't after your money. Make sure that you are of sound mind and don't suffer from any self hate issues. Make sure your partner is down for the movement. Make sure to raise you children to be proud of their melanin so that they go on to become soldiers in the war for melanoid empowerment.
Well said. Excellent contribution.
Reading some of these comments...damn. I wish black people were better at focusing on the big picture, understanding nuance, tactics and strategies. We get tripped up on petty stuff while white people are training their white teenage daughters and sons to use automatic weapons and guerrilla tactics.
Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly and Palin, no matter their differences all agree on one thing: dominating black people.
Negative...I think you need to go back and check the archives. He did an hour plus long show debating a negro bed wench radio show host from DC I believe. I also think you missed his point...There is nothing wrong with interracial dating as long as the two people have genuine feelings for each other and there is not some hidden white supremacist agenda festering. People can't help who they are attracted to but we should never be pursuing other races like its some grand prize trophy over our own or to gain acceptance into the dominant society.The union should just come naturally and both parties should be on the same page ideologically especially when it comes to racial issues.
That white dude with a fetish for champagne and black butt cheeks is Steve Kroft, who works at 60 Minutes. Both he and his sidepiece are married.
Damn! The bitch name is Lisan Goines. She's a lawyer.
Bi-racials are not black, sorry I don't agree with Tariq on this one. When you look at UK for example that has high interracial rate, 80% of those biracial children MARRY white or non black, so any black person who engages in creating a biracial child is basically agreeing to sign his blackness away. When the mulatto has a child with a white person and the kid comes out white (example Paula Patton), and is accepted into white society what is the chances he will turn around and help black folks and identify with them when he is PASSING and GAINING from being a part of white society?
Other communities reject biracials FOR A REASON. Accepting them brings utter confusion to their community in every way. They accept foreign blood, they widen what there respective phenotype looks like which causes more confusion and may cause inferiority complexes. The negatives are endless, but the reason we even have to deal with this is because many black men are creating these mulattos and putting them on a pedestal. They get into that "biracial look" and this ushers what they find attractive even farther from the black phenotype that the average black person has. Which is why the video girls in their rap songs over the years have been getting whiter or more "foreign".
But forget about that get money 1st and then worry about that,dont forget, money first,dont waste time with bullshit.
Thats Tariq message.
On the surface, I get the point of what you are saying. However, there are over 1 billion phenotypically black people in the world so even with the intermarriage rate, we will not run out of black people as black people, even in the US, intermarry rarely. Most black people live around other black people so odds are they will marry a black person. White people run us even at lesser numbers. That should be the focus.
With respect to the UK, my stay there was short ,but as I understand it, blacks make such a small percentage of the population, especially outside of London, that of course the interracial marriage rate is high. Your non-black options far outweigh your black options. So of course a lot of blacks will marry whites. Asians and Jews have a similar challenge in the USA. But I digress...
With respect to rap videos and black males... black men have not run rap music since at least the mid-90s. And do you never ask yourself the question of why black women take social cues from black rappers versus a black lawyer, a black doctor or a black engineer? Why is a broke rapper able to run that many black women? How did we get to this point?
So you're saying Dr Phil Valentine, Dr Claude Anderson, Za Za Ali, Dr. Kaba Kameen, and Neely Fuller are NOT black? They have dedicated they're entire lives to empowering black people with the most potent knowledge possible. Until you can match a fraction of a percent of the work they've put in for our people shut up and sit your ass down. Your in no position what so ever to say who should consider themselves black when you have proved nothing. Alot of biracial people have a black consciousness, know who they are and know who the REAL enemy is and are not trying to bed them. So to assume that all will try to do that is total BS.
There are a lot of Tariq "d**k riders" on here and that doesn't help the problem. The show was awful, he talked more about colorism than interracial dating/marriage, and he did not go all the way in on these sellout bitches. How can you talk about the problems w/ negrobedwenches in previous shows, but yet continue to say you like Eve. Fuck Eve! She has chosen her side. So fuck her. Black people need to stop low key liking these dumb ass broads who align themselves with the other side. They're the enemy......period!
But forget about that get money 1st and then worry about that,dont forget, money first,dont waste time with bullshit.
Thats Tariq message.
I agree with tariq on black empowerment all the way. And let me start by saying tariq is the first man i can say i truly respect. And i think he should just leave at if you identify with black then you're with us. Because he confused me at the end. And i think he really is trying to get on black mens mind right because i think he knows the black women will not change their minds about interracial dating. That a sad reality is that most black women have jump ship.EIther with their self hate or their secret desire to be with white men. What i took from the show is that black men have to empower themselves and then the women will follow. We like cmb we all we got
Black women(like seriously every race of women) are atracted to power so isnt surprising that they would go that way.The thing is when most black man empower themselfs they either get white women or lightskin women.
So the message is get money and get power,but while you do that can you also program your mind to love blackness?? well acordind to what i read here thats a waste of time.
It is not true that when most black men get money they get a white woman. That is a myth. Take the NBA. Shaunie O'Neal, Shaq's ex-wife, said herself that it was hard to get a white woman on Basketball Wives because there were so few of them and those few wanted nothing to do with the show. Some economist from Harvard wrote an entire paper on how rare interracial marriage is in the USA.
Black men have to build an economic base to be viable alternatives. I never get mad at a woman for taking the economic route because that is in her best interest. No woman should be with a man who is both broke AND has no plan.
This is my final comment on this subject. I'll admit that I was wrong for cursing out Tariq, I was pissed at this podcast so I just simply just let my fingers roll without thought. However I never said that he stealing our money. Im stating that his ideology makes me wonder where is the money going to go when we our done building our economic base. The term "Melonoid" is very suspect.
What I have problem with is that you guys will simply ignore the problems that will prevent us for practicing group economics. How are suppose to empower ourselves when the only people we empower in our comminuty is mixed people. How we suppose to fight white supramency when alot of us are on this color shit. I know yall might say that me bringing it up solidifies the problem but alot of people in our comminuty think light is better. Take off your blinders and look around. Black Men worshipping PAWGS and non-black women, Black Men rapping about redbones and light-skin girls. Black Women glorifying scandal, Black Women going on getto gaggers hoing it up.
With this amount of self hate within our comminuty, there needs to be line to drawn. Trying to practice group economics or making a code of conduct without preserving our identiry is nothing but a pipe dream. If we simply ignore It and chase money like you guys say suggest. There is good chance that our comminuty will be infiltrated and we will have biracials lording over us and they will end up representing all black people. The real black people will be living in poverty as peasants. Don't think this will happen? Look at Brazil, Lybia, South Africa. Is this what Tariq wants?? This is why I question his motives.
This is all I got to say about this topic. I don't want to dwell on this further.
Good points but like Tariq says the focus is on the money so riding with biracials can increase the probability of gettin paper.
I agree with your points but black people in america are too deep on that self hate, for example if you start talkin stuff like going back to Africa they will start panicking.
In the end of the day you gotta be realistic most blacks in America and Europe dont want power to live on their own rules,they want it to get the same priveliges white people got.
All the talk about black pride sounds good(i love the idea too) but you gotta be realistic,get money 1st and then people will follow you,Whites got money so blacks follow rhem.
The 1 drop rule is for slaves and i for one have never been enslaved so that rule isnt one i have to follow or bow down too
Some of these comments are a disgrace. People seem to want to focus on Tariq personally(his wife, his sister, etc) instead of focusing on the big picture of what he is saying. White people barely care about Rush Limbaugh's family and criminal history. But they get the bigger point about his agenda. White people barely care about O'Reilly's marital problems. But they get the bigger point behind his agenda. The agenda is simple: Keep black people in a state of submission to a white power structure. Everything else is noise.
Black people are on the LOSING side of a war.
On our side, we have PROGRAMMED division between the black men and the black women. We have UNAMBIGUOUSLY BLACK sellouts and traitors like Ben Carson, Larry Elder and Clarence Thomas. But yet in this war we want to kick out allies who will ride and die with us? I work with a BLACK woman right now on black empowerment. She has one white and one black parent. How foolish would it be for me to cast her away because of her parents? We are at war and black people have no concept of allies and long term strategy. I have to kick out a loyal biracial but embrace a full black sellout? What sense does that make? Or how stupid is that?
I heard that Afrobabe from Toronto. Let me find out she just got out of a relationship with a white man. She made no sense. Her whole conversation was one of those intellectual contortions that black people just aren't ready for. Who turns down allies when they are losing a war?
Man, your comments are irritating as hell. Why do you have a problem with admitting to the reality of colorism? Furthermore, who said Black people are REQUIRED to honor bi-racial people of African ancestry as being JUST BLACK? How is it that just because White people reject them, then that means BLACK PEOPLE MUST ACCEPT them? There is no damn rule book or requirement to identify them as Black or accept them as such. One of the reasons Whites, as a collective, were able to amass their wealth and power is due to the reality of their racial caste system that they defined and was able to rally behind. You don't think they didn't see bi-racial people WHITE AS SNOW? How is it that they can look at a person who looks White and still reject them for having a known Black relative for the sake of racial solidarity and making sure they get their privileges and benefits, but you can't and the person could LOOK WHITE IN EVERY WAY? Scott has a legitimate concern. And I think it's complete hogwash to advance this melanoid agenda and then don't see the contradiction of breeding and mating with a non-Black. The first thing I'm looking at is GENETIC CONTINUITY. You so pro-Black or melanoid, but you just diluted the genes and even lessened the very thing that gives you advantage while living on the planet. Your MELANIN. Next, you so pro-Black or melanoid, but YOU CHOOSE TO BUILD YOUR FINANCIAL LEGACY with an individual who is not melanoid. If anyone has any intelligence about wealth creation, it would pretty much defeat the purpose to have this exclusive BLACK ECONOMY OR MELANOID ECONOMY only to give it away through the Back door RIGHT BACK TO THE SAME DAMN PEOPLE you claim is already getting too damn much of your wealth as it is via your NON-BLACK SPOUSE. And it really doesn't matter "how down" they pro-claim to be pro melanin empowerment when THEIR FAMILY IS NOT THAT AT ALL FROM THE MOST BASIC LEVEL. It's laughable and that's why folks in those relationships are laughed at and not taken seriously at all. At the end of the day, your non-Black spouse will not know how it feels to be of the oppressed group, will not have that personal lived experience, that person would never be able to immerse fully his or her self into the CULTURE forever being an outsider, your history is not their history, and your shared collective struggle would never be something they will have intimate knowledge of at all. There is a difference between sympathy and empathy. Your non-Black spouse would always be working at a deficit when attempting to educate and socialize the children into who they are as "melanoid" people, would have to constantly reference other 'melanoid" people to teach them what they are insufficient in teaching them, the children will be grappling with identity issues into adulthood, etc.....Black Empowerment starts with the Black Family Unit. It is where you gain your identify, your values, your ethics, etc....What does that say about how you think about your own people when you don't even entrust one WITH THE MOST PRECIOUS THING? THAT IS YOUR CHILDREN? ALSO, YOUR HEART AND MIND. The parents are the primary socializing agents of the child. It doesn't say much about your dedication to Black empowerment to preach this melanoid nation into working together to the exclusion of other races of people who are in groups who participate in your oppression, yet you can't manage to do what you preach at the most MICRO, BASIC LEVEL. YOU CAN'T PREACH MACRO-LEVEL ETHNOCENTRISM, NATIONALISM A FORM OF EXCLUSION AND SEPARATION MELANOID NATION WHEN YOU HAVE NOT FIRST DEMONSTRATED IT'S SUCCESS IN YOUR OWN LIFE AND FAMILY. If you can't make it with someone among your own and you found BETTER COMPATIBILITY WITH SOMEONE OF ANOTHER RACE, then how in the hell you going to be able to PREACH DOING THE OPPOSITE on the macro-level. Hell, you couldn't even do it in your own personal family life. THAT IS NOT MELANOID NATION YOU LIVING AT HOME, THAT IS MULTI-RACIAL NATION. That is assimilation, integration, and miscegenation. And that is your Black wealth, again going to a non-black and helping to empower them. SMH. You and that Rafael need to stop.
Biracial people are not really black!! Biracial people are half black and half whatever they mix with. Tariq you must not have taken biology in school. Tariq comparing Hebrew Israelite with Biracial you are losing the point. Tariq if a lion and a tiger have an offspring what do you called the offspring a lions or a tiger or is it a mixture of both. A horse and a donkey mix what is the offspring a horse or a donkey. Nature allowed these species to mix and produce offspring that have both characteristic of each parent but when it comes to black men nature make special preference to just have the characteristic of just the black men. Biracial group are just social construct and why are you letting the white man dedicate to you who is black and who is white. The one drop ruled was created by the slave master because of shortage of labor.
No biology or genetics class worth anything would support what you are saying. Where is your army to enforce the notion that biracial people are not black?
Horses and donkeys are DIFFERENT species. That is why they produce a sterile offspring, the mule.
Lion and tigers are DIFFERENT species. That is why the produce a sterile offspring, the liger.
Black and white people are of the SAME species, which is why we produce viable offspring that can further reproduce. The genetic argument with respect to race is a colossal failure. Even white people who know science don' t use the genetic argument.
Yes, science would confirm that statement in regards to recognizing admixed human populations, man. Stop with the intellectual dishonesty. They even conduct medical research studies to understand the different varieties and kinds of humans still using racial categories in order to develop medicine that is more tailored to different human groups. STOP. You know damn well what the commentor meant. Stop with the games. The person is NOT SOLELY BLACK IS THE POINT. THE PERSON IS BOTH. WOULD DOGS WORK BETTER FOR YOUR SIMPLE MINDED SELF? THEY ARE part of THE SAME SPECIES. NO ONE CALLS A DAMN LABRADOR WHO IS MIXED WITH POODLE JUST A LABRADOR SILLY. No one calls a chihuahua mixed with poodle just a damn chihuahua. O.K. You can be of the same species and of different BREEDS, STOCKS, AND VARIETIES. Human beings come in different varieties. They are the same species, NOT THE SAME KIND. And different varieties of humans within our species can interbreed. STOP BEING SILLY AND INTELLECTUALLY DISHONEST HERE. Never heard of a Chi-Poo? Never heard of a Sheprador? And let's continue with the Canids. Wolves are a species, within that species is the dog sub-species. It is well known they can mix and have viable offspring and then to add to that, different varieties of wolves can intermix to produce viable hybrids and different varieties of dogs may intermix producing viable offspring. So. Stop with the nonsense already. Human beings can have admixed offspring. The principles of taxonomy still applies even to us. We simply want to ignore it for the sake of being politically correct and as a backlash to racism. Even forensic anthropologists in modern times can successfully identify the different varieties of human beings that are closely associated with our current racial classifications. Before you "go in" on someone. Update your information or at least be honest in your discourse.
Do you even science bro? o.O
I'm glad he spoke on the main excuse black men give for dating white women 'black girls didn't like me when I was a kid'
that's a bullshit excuse...you wanted to date a white woman all along
also I liked what he was saying about 'clique-ing up'
black people are the only people who want to not identify themselves with anything....
muthafucka...you're fucking BLACK get over it...let's band together and make a push to make some real significant change
it'll be 100 years from now and we'll still be at the bottom of the totem pole talking about 'light skinned vs dark skinned' and trying to identify as hispanic cause your grandpa was from south america and shit
how bout...if you have at least 1 black parent...your ass is BLACK!
what'd he say about the prison yard? whoever doesn't choose a side is EVERYONE'S bitch?!? I liked that example...black people are everyone's bitch cause we won't just clique together and form our own gang we want to change the system overnight
how bout we team up and solidify and THEN if by some kind of miracle there's actual social equality around here, THEN maybe we branch out as far as how we identify
My friends that have darker skin say that I'm mulatto. “White” individuals that don't know me refer to me as “Black.” “White” people that do know me say that I'm neither black nor white but a mixture. I identify myself as black on the census sheet. Feels like society made people like me the gray race that nobody will claim. At first it was confusing... However, melanocytes are the dominant cell. Since melanocytes are the dominante cell and my skin has a fair volume of melanin I am naturally “black” or “negro” or “melanin” due to the dominant genetics creating my melanin skin, kinky hair, black features, etc.. Melanin people are the domanant race, therefore anyone coming from, at least, one black parent would be black by default. Finally, a lot of individuals that are considered black have had grandparents, or great grandparents, that are part black part white. Since they are considered black then why aren't mixed individuals? They too are mixed even if it is from a distant. So I conseder myself black.
Wrong. SO VERY GOT DAMN WRONG. Your logic is completely OFF. AND YOU ARE IN DENIAL. Plenty of people I've seen who were biracial who look straight WHITE. If your statement was true, then there would be NO EURASIAN PEOPLE ON THE PLANET. Also, you need to brush up on genetics 101. Dominance of genes doesn't translate to those genes becoming more common or the norm. The frequency of genes determine what will be more common in a population. That is why RECESSIVE GENES ARE THE NORM IN WESTERN, NORTHERN, CENTRAL AND EVEN PART OF SOUTHERN EUROPE. Also, levels of admixture matter. That is why someone with a grand parent or great grand parent who is part white can still be classified as black and not you who is more of immediate mixed raced descent. It matters when it comes to the diseases that will present themselves, it matters when it comes to certain genes that may be more active, it matters when it comes down to your body chemistry. THINGS YOU HAVE OBVIOUSLY NOT STUDIED. Even those with a higher level of admixture have problems finding bone marrow donors. LOOK. IT. UP.
This comment section proves why Black people will never get right as a group. That's why I support Neely Fuller Jr. concept of an independent code conduct, because simply put, black people in large numbers CAN'T work together. The fact you have stupid debates like who's black or not based on skin tone when black people have no control over who is classified as what is sad. But these and many petty issues come up whenever black people seem to get together. Forget unity and all that crap, because it doesn't work. Either move for self or find a like minded person and move with them. Forget an army of black people, because all you will see is petty in fighting like on this comment section.
The white supremacist win again.
You see, White people don't need to get together in groups to understand that the status quo benefits them and they need to maintain it. They do what they need to as individuals, unless it's an emergency which they haven't had to do in decades now, because black people cut their own throats. Just like how Pete Caroll called for Wilson to throw a pass in the end zone, just so Marshawn Lynch didn't get the credit of winning the Superbowl. That's how white people move.
Black people should understand what needs to be done and just do it. Don't waste time trying to convince black people who care more about pointless nonsense that does nothing but waste time. White people don't waste their time. They understand what's at stake if the system of white supremacy isn't maintained.
The conversation seem to be nessacery so lets have it, if everybody carry out ones duty the a quick discussion won't hurt.
If Black people share resources with mulatoes but those resources don't return but are then pumped into another group, well that seem harmful so lets discuss what's Black.
Lightskin doesn't equal bi racial though.
In 400+ years, tell me one thing black people have accomplished through discussions. Black people love talking.
As a group, black people talking is virtually a guarantee absolutely nothing will get accomplished. Let's act first, then report back on our deeds.
Most importantly, without money to fund an army, blacks can't enforce jack anyway.
The best plan is to work with 3 people who identify as black, get something done and use that capital to expand. Town Hall meetings on who is black would sink us even lower on the power scale.
Whats the name of that song in the beginning please anyone tell me
Poo Bear feat. Tyga. Imma make you work for it
Tariq got the white supremacist pissed off
Boy, heavy game on this show... lol!
I agree with most of this, but Tariq loses me here and there. I do agree that white people are promoting interracial relationships now and it is very peculiar, but I think the idea of them doing it to funnel more white people within their society is a bit far fetched.
Nothing makes a white guy more insecure than seeing a cute white girl with a black guy, and they know how strong our genes are, it is a threat to their very existence.
I don't think they're using interracial breeding to increase the white population, lol. I do acknowledge that it is still due to white supremacy though... I think it is just used as a false cover as to how inclusive our society is becoming... meanwhile they are shooting us like deer season.
And the idea that any white man who isn't in the life of their bi-racial child is simply a trick, to me promotes white supremacy as well...
As if a white dude can't just be a deadbeat dad like anyone else. -_-
I disagree with the "wealthy white women don't get with black guys" thing. Yes, it is rare... wealthy white women aren't even allowed to get with white guys who aren't from equally prominent families.
But Tariq HIMSELF did say (if you look at his very first interracial relationship podcast from waaaaaay back in the day) that a white woman with money is more likely to get with a black guy. Why? Because she is financially independent and doesn't have to worry as much about being "cut off" from her family. He even used Heidi Klum and Seal as an example I believe.
There are other white chicks out there in Hollywood with money who got with black guys. Like Idina Menzel, Hope Solo, Ashley Simpson, Lisa Ann, Ellen Pompeo... to name a few off of the top. These weren't poor women looking for a come-up. (And I purposely omitted The Iggys and Miley Cyruses)
"We gotta stop trying to show people in the dominant society that we're somehow worthy... stop that BULLSHIT MAN!"
Truer words have never been spoken! After 400+ years blacks are still trying to beg white people to acknowledge their humanity... cut that shit out g-ddamnit!
I think you missed some points...
As far as whites promoting black and white dating, if black men and women date whites then amount of so called "true blacks" will then dwindle. Whites will make a new race, biracials, to confuse blacks, and the numbers of blacks will be so low that they can be controlled and possibly exterminated. Then whites will then target biracials. They are thinking years ahead. They are playing chess.
Next, what Tariq meant about wealthy white women... He meant "OLD MONEY." The women you listed are from new money.
For us to win this game of chess, we need to team up. Dark and light blacks. Blacks need to form an alliance with biracials to win vice versa.
We are in war.
1. There are about 1 billion people who would be considered phenotypically black, across Africa, the US, Latin America and the Caribbean. And I am not even including the many dark skinned people who want nothing to do with blacks but would never be accepted as white. I've worked with many people who were assumed to be black by my white peers, including southeast Asians...but I digress.
2. The white birthrate is declining in the USA and Europe. The assertion that black/white mixed babies are a demographic threat is unrealistic in the near term. Engineered viruses like EBOLA are a bigger threat.
What is hurting black people now is an economic dependence on am enemy, white supremacy. We have to wait on cures from the same industry that is spreading the disease. We need a separate economy.
I think that when Tariq is speaking on wealthy white women marrying black men he is speaking of wealthy white women like the heiress of Walmart or the daughter's from the Eccelstone formula 1 racing empire marrying a relatively broke (financially and influentially) black man like Taye Diggs. To us, Diggs may be wealthy, but for them, he's worth pennies on the dollar. They would never marry him.
You never really see this example. The actresses you listed are no more wealthy (financially and influentially) than the black males that they are/were married to. To be factual, many of the white women you listed were not monetarily and or influentially on the same level as their black male spouse at the time of meeting their husbands.
So, yes, even though now, Menzel is hot because of Frozen, it was still a come up when she married Taye Diggs, because at that time, she had only been in 4 Broadway plays, and a few episodes of a b/c character on a show, when Diggs had starring roles in movies, broadway shows, and television. This is a come up. Pompeo makes cake now/episode on Grey's but when she met her music producing husband that has been in the game for about 15-20 years, Grey's had just ended their pilot season, so she wasn't making any where close to what he was making or could conjure the same influence in Hollywood at that time. Evan Ross, is worth twice as much as Ashlee Simpson, and stands to inherit a portion of the 500-600 million dollars that Diana Ross has. Again, a come up. Hope Solo and her husband are worth about the same thing, so again, that doesn't count. She's wealthy to some, but if both people are worth the same, that's not a wealthy white woman lowering herself to date a black male. It's really hard to find a wealthy white woman, that marries a black man that has nothing that she can benefit from (either power or money) in the same way that Tiger Woods married his wife, a former nanny.
I dont understand what's so hard to understand about this. If you identify as black, whatever skin tone, lets get it. Anyone who doesn't, charge them to the game and keep it moving. Whoever wants to be with someone white, thinks they're the greatest since sliced bread, or love them more than themselves or their own, charge they ass to the game and keep pushing. Seems like some of us are always looking for anything to lay down and quit over.
I dont understand the gripes about the man's money or some of his views. We spend money every day with organizations and people who dont give a shit about our struggle, so? I dont know very many people I see eye to eye with on everything, so why do we always have this need to nitpick the fuck out of each other? Some shit is petty and we can wait until we get out the deep as hole we're in to start beefing over. Just my two cents.
Co-sign. It's sad how black people can't even make money off of other black people without some jealous black person trying to shame them or bring them down. This is why a lot of black businesses don't succeed. Now because of poor service, not because of higher prices, and not because of lack of items. They don't succeed, because a lot of black people refuse to give other black people their money. Yet, they won't hesitate to give their money to the Asian, the Arab, and the Jew, whom all give blacks poor services, overcharge them for their products, and don't even supply enough of the items they need. Like I said, this comment section proves why a large number of black people CAN'T work together. Too much jealously, and too many phony black men and women that talk a good game, but when it's time to make moves they want to waste time debating bullshit or they don't want to give their financial support.
I never hear black people complain every Nike comes out with a new edition of Air Jordans. You never hear talk about how Nike is ripping them off or getting rich off of them. Instead, they shut up, stand in line, and only act out if thee shoe is sold out. GTFOH!
Your logic is flawed. There are many Melanoids that are willing to support Melanoid owned businesses. Take those that support Tariq for example, Melanoid Churches, Salons, Food Chains, Hospitals, Counseling Services, Martial Art Classes, Farmer's Markets, Shops. However we need more businesses and more support from our own which is why we need to spread the word and have these discussion.. Also, don't you know that not all blacks have a materialistic mind set? It's just a collection of individuals with defeatists attitudes that try not to rock the boat, those in favor of allowing another creeds to determine their worth, approval seekers, and those that Diss Melanoid people (Calling them pathetic) that are detrimental to the cause and should be ignored and left to hang with Tommy Sotomayor... One must be understanding in order to provide effective constructive criticism. Please have a nice day sir. Thank you and goodbye.
I support black businesses, even though by and large, they eventually fail and IT IS SOLELY BECAUSE OF THEIR BEHAVIOR. The question is, do you want to go there, do you want to rant about this?
A month or two before this happened, I called them and asked to order a simple Chicken Salad to go, according to the menu I picked up previously... The owner says " I can't take your order, I got my chefs cooking shrimp for tonight's buffet, I want them to focus on cooking shrimp... Bye." I said "Okaaay..." and then started the mental countdown for the closing. And now this business up the street, Mr. P's Hot Wings is on some other igga business again, they serve all the white people before they served us, we waited and hour for a hamburger with fries!!! And don't get me started on Trinity Kobbler in Cordova...
Here is an article about Steve Kroft and his mistress:
Lol, thanks for the link! Tariq says so many one-offs, sometimes they escape me... that female look like a horse in the face, but i am peeping that blond wig. Not work safe link, but I am linking it anyway:
I just saw that Daily Mail article and almost fell over reading this:
"But while their affair began at the $700-a-night Four Seasons hotel, it quickly lost its luxurious edge and went 'kind of low end', a source said.
She would often meet him while he was working in Washington D.C. and once asked him to buy her a ticket, and he agreed but only footed the bill that once, the report added."
I am not dissing the woman's looks but a blonde wig on a black woman leads me to flag her as a tranny. Kroft got himself some young tail, so his angle as clear. At his age he might escape with just embarrassment. But that Goines bird might lose her job and her husband.
@ Phaddi Snaxx:
You are welcome. And thank you for the Daily Mail article. WOW!! Damn, these people really nasty! Interesting read, though.
Whoa, now I see why they want to shut down the net. They cant let all that hot fire srpead to the masses. Yo third eye knowledge be killin them. Much respect T.
Additional good game regarding Interracial Macking:
Episode #12-"Mackin To Mixed Women"
I listen to these with fond memories.
Tariq this is that hotep bullshit you're spewing. A lot of white men who were bullied at school or who can't get a white women date a lot of Asian women and they go to foreign countries to do so that's why the White Male/Asian Female is one of the top interracial relationships. You really don't know how many white people think they own Asians and especially there women and they especially hate to see Black Men with the Asian Women.
Dating interracial is the last thing white supremacist want they want black people to date amongst theirselves while they get to pick the lot of women from all over the world. A lot of Asian males do date white women when they can get them. Same for latino males they tend to go for Asian and White women too.
Last you talk about the Black Men who speak out against Black Women after the disrespect that Black Women give to Black Men because they're not thuggish enough.So basically what you're saying that you have to be a thug to get respect from black people rather than be yourself. A lot of Black Women are highly disrespectful and even do that bullshit nigga's aint shit too. You don't call them out on that.
Not every black dude is a thug and black people sometimes are the most disrespectful people to themselves over nothing. So yeah it is better to date interracial when you're promised a better life and the women look better.
Tariq there's more races out there than just Black and White. There's Asian, Latino, and middle eastern. They all look better than most black women as long as black women are on that slum shit the non slum black women can compete but barely. I just love me some non black women and I shouldn't have to take shit from black women.
Your mind is filled with so many extreme emotions that you cannot see how irrational your line of thinking is...
You don't even realize that you're pretty much putting words in Tariq's mouth by saying, “So basically what you're saying that you have to be a thug to get respect from black people rather than be yourself.” This irrational line of thinking is FAR from what Tariq has been saying. Just check out his free podcast on macklessonsradio and search for, “Fake Thug Culture.” You just have it in your head that Black women disrespect Black men “because they're not thuggish enough” for whatever reason. I've met many Black women that has shown respect to good standing black men including (but not limited to) husbands, fathers, sons, brothers, friends, and leaders. I have also met many women of other races that are into dating the so called, “black thug.”
If you just want to date women of other cultures because you happen to click with a lady you met and found attractive, go for it. However, if you are crapping on women of your own race in the process then that only makes you look bad. Quality women don't speak ill of others, nor would they want to be with a man that speaks ill of others let alone their own race. It shows lack of character and immaturity.
This is the thing Tariq is trying to shame black men from having preferences to date interracial. Same tactics he called a weak move to black male shaming black women for acting the way they act. It's like he's trying to tell his viewer to only date in your race and if you happen to date interracial by coincidence that's okay.
Then he undermines how a lot of Black people act by saying you were the one causing it because you were cooning. Just because I'm different doesn't mean I should be provoked by Black people. A lot of the Black Women didn't stop at we're not interested I wish they did. They want to try to have you set up. That's okay because that's how Black people are. Really!?!?!
It's not lies these men be saying about black women they just tell the truth that's why the black women get angry. I can find a ghetto angry black women no matter where I go. The good black girl is very rare.
Tariq even says when White Men get bullied and don't get play they go get the baddest white woman. Really? That's why we see all these White Male/Asian Female couples? A lot of white men have huge Asian fetishes. So of course they're not going to date Black Women if they can get an Asian wife. And White males are the ones who started date foreign women. So that's a crock of bull shit.
I refused to date a black women and I will use Tariq's and Player Supreme's game to date the non-black women.
I was with you during the 1st two paragraphs, then you went into self-hatred mode.
The "black bitches ain't shit!" is white supremacist talk dude.
Not my intentions at all. I was saying that quality women, no matter the race, do not want men that speak poorly of other races. Also, I do not agree with those words. “Black women ain't shit” talk is such a crock of bull. Not only are they valuable, due to the melanin in their skin, the quality Black women beat competition by far. So please don’t put words in my mouth.
So pretty much what I gathered from the “Constructive Criticism ” in this comment section is that:
1.) It's best not to date Black women, therefore allowing them to die off.
2.) Mixed women are not Black and are acceptable unless they become pro black and/or act like a Black women.
3.) Many Black men and women are jealous of each other, deceitful, lazy, and have poor work ethic therefore only very few should be trusted with bringing forth change to the community.
4.) Black people won't support each other anyway so trying to bring forth change will fail.
5.) Other races have it together so it's good to blend in with them.
From all of this information, the only best outcome would be for a Black man to Marry a non-black woman and become an assistant for another race in whatever career they chose... After all, Black leadership will ultimately fail...
A lot of the comments on this podcast is confusing to say the least. A few of you got the gist of what Tariq was talking about. The ones who disagree are failing to see the logic in the game that Tariq is spitting. And some of you are completely putting words in Tariq mouth, saying things he did not say.
The prison analogy was SPOT ON.
LETS GO TARIQ!!!!
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