Ep.#83-Sundown Towns Part 2

6/11/2015

In this episode Tariq talks about sundown towns such as McKinney Texas and others. This show was recorded live in Hawaii.

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backtokemet

6/10/2015 09:10:26 pm

I predict the names Hors Sfier and Phaddi Snaxx will show up in the comments section

Phaddi Snaxx

6/10/2015 11:13:07 pm

Good prediction!

Hors Sfier

6/11/2015 12:03:11 am

The podcast is about the seriousness of sundown towns. Yet the first post is from a...groupie? Smh.

Yeah, I keep saying that those cameras and this Internet are the only things keeping black people alive. When that footage gets beamed across the world,all people are going to see is a white cop attacking a black girl in a bikini. I get a few international networks and they actual give fair coverage of what is happening to blacks in America. The Japanese NHK network had a great roundtable discussion on the Ferguson riots. So black people can use these media tools to our advantage. Always have a camera ready. Those kids are about to bankrupt McKinney with civil rights lawsuits. Good. All white supremacists respect is power in the form of money or weaponry.

backtokemet

6/11/2015 05:02:02 am

Someone is taking herself a little too seriously. If I'm a groupie, you must be a diva. Don't mind me, carry on ..

R8sing A Nation

6/11/2015 01:01:44 am

Great show!
I worked for an H.O.A company in the community I lived in for 6 years. Here is what I believe to be true.
1. Residents use CC&R's and their Neighborhood Watch to justify profiling, harassing, and following at will.
2. White supmracist move into these gated communities to avoid having to live around blacks.
3. If as a black person you live in one of these communities they will be watching your every move and if you don't fall in their line they will use the h.o.a board meetings to complain about you.

I will never live in another gated community ever. The mess that residents would say to me had me heated many times. I was told my husband and my self were not like other blacks. There was one resident whom felt like he had the right to talk to the teens in our community any type of way. He came to me ranting one day in my office(I worked onsite) and he was yelling that he didn't pay good money for his development to turn into a little Oakland. That's a code word here in Nor Cal that racist say meaning black people. They love to reference Oakland.Funny thing is Oakland has it bad areas but for the most part it's been gentrified and the hills are all rich people and the police put a smack down on black folks so lots of blacks have moved out the city. But I knew exactly what he was talking about and I called him on it. Next thing you know he and others are out for my job because I wouldn't cosign to the racist behavior. We had 24 hr roaming security alongside a gaurd at the gate. But that wasn't enough,a large group of residents started demanding that we allocate more money to pay for higher level of a security gaurd. Which would have cost even more money to up our insurance policy. But they didn't care they wanted a gaurd that had the ability to detain. I used to input the weekend security gaurd reports , I could read all the bullshit calls our residence made to security. It always was suspicious person at park, kids on skateboard on the main parkway, or lots of "people" at the basketball courts.. just little dumb stuff. Our community was in the middle of nowhere, some of the residence acted like we were the last civil civilization!!! Total paranoia and they used the CC&R's, security, neighborhood watch, and board meetings to put their structures into place.

Finally as a word of caution. When you step inside a gated a community you first are under the rule of the H.O.A and they do not have their rules posted. Gated communities are considered private property. So just as we saw with Trayvon Martin and McKinnley Texas if a resident gets to feeling some type of way about you they can and will do as they want and hide behind the h.o.a bylaws and their private property status.

Hors Sfier

6/11/2015 03:43:21 am

Great post. I purposely bought a place with no HOA. That is what black people need to understand. Black people are on the run everywhere because we own so little. They keep us under siege in the cities with the prison industry. We run to the suburbs and have the constant threat of cops coming for us.

That black girl could mouth all she wanted. That is legal. But that cop knew he could act with no consequences. Pull her hair. Throw her down. Sit on her.

The other thing is that if the black male was healthy, there would be retaliation. It is very unusual historically for an outsider to violate a female and stroll away. Black people have been so cowed into fear that the same cop could stroll through the same neighborhood and still feel safe. That has got to change.

Phaddi Snaxx

6/16/2015 10:52:58 pm

I am enjoying all of this info, thanks for posting! Since you know about the Bay, do you think Zaza Ali is an undercover snitch? It looks to me like she is. And have you listened to Tariq's show, "The Economy in Street Terms"? What did you think of it?

R8sing A Nation

6/17/2015 07:07:10 am

@Phaddi Snaxx

No, I cant say off the top of my head I listened to that particular show. But I may have and just have missed the tittle. I'll go back and check on that.
In regards to ZaZa Ali, I don't know much of her...but I do recall the Ginger Daniels situation. So from me a agent that worked in the industry during and after that time, I can say that in all honesty that a lot of people got indicted on stuff they really had no clue they were partaking in.
I know it sounds strange but just rock with me for a second. There are all types of levels of involvement as a sales agent in the real estate industry especially at that time. You can be a sales agent and be in a you a situation where you are basically a gopher getting a steady check. Brokers make all the money, call all the shots, and sometimes if their shady make up their own rules(especially if they hake a inside hookup with a loan processor and underwriter at a bank). Some agents do low level office work and show a home here and there.
Back then a lot of agents got brought up on charges for bank fraud and they had no clue as to what they were doing. They could have been faxing financial documents that were doctored by the broker. They could have deposited escrow checks/earnest money deposits into the brokers account not knowing they were earnest money deposits. Or they were depositing money in brokers accounts that had been scammed out of people looking for mortgage modifications, or money to illegally stall out the banks from foreclosing.
These brokers popped up everywhere some were real estate attorney's, some had real estate attorney's on pay roll. As an agent you want to believe your broker is operating a legit business. I've heard from some agents say all seemed on the up and up until the complaints start coming in or the feds show up.
So back to Ginger Daniels because I know little about ZaZa I was not able to find any details of what type of bank fraud was committed. She hasn't served any time(which by the way Ca Dept of Real Estate will make a good effort to have you locked up) In my opinion knowing very little she may have not snitch as in a way to deflect from her wrong doing, she may have just not known what she was doing. Even low level mortgage fraud snitches were being prosecuted. A lot of two bit mortgage modification scammers have been dealt with as well. It's the fat cats on Wall Street that walked.

She more likely than not was a low level in a office and that would explain why she got let off. When I did a DRE license check I could not find her name. Which tells me 2 things that her licenses was revoked but normally that information is available which leads me to think that maybe she wasn't even a sales agent. Which if you are handling any money or financial documents is a big no no and that very well may be why she got indicted on bank fraud,
Her position within whatever agency she was working at may have misrepresented her job tittle. Also to be fair a lot of hungry brokers got themselves in similar situations, working in firms that had crooks at the helm and they really had no clue.

As far as the ZaZa Tariq beef, I myself don't care for public infighting. Were all in the same gang we just may go about things different. However I do understand that Tariq needed to defend his work.
I myself as a woman have no issues at all with what Tariq says even though I may not agree on some things. But in no way do I think Tariq hates women or objectifies them. I feel he really goes in on men more than women.
As far as the "enlightened" crowd, I have learned to not think all are genuine(as with any group of people) but I found in my experience that some will at times justify their shady behavior but stand in condemnation of others. I worked with this brother and he was all day talking about how all white people are devils, It was like 24/7 with this dude, I truly believed he hated white people. Then one day this white chick walked in and he was like "oh there goes my boo!" I iced him after that, not because his girl was white but because he was fraudulent.
For me I like people that can admit their shortcomings, be about that dropping knowledge and still learning path and be regular people When I see a lot of window dressings I get suspicious.

Is ZaZa an all out snitch informant, I don't know. Butt if she was she is really doing some bold shit. Oakland "the town" is not the place to be doing that. It may have been gentrified but there is a lot of o'g's that have remained and live in the outer parts(Richmond, San Fran) Maybe those were the ones that hit up Tariq and they have more info on her. as far as females Angela Davis still has the peoples ear in Oakland.

Daniel Menzies

6/11/2015 04:28:38 am

It's interesting that the woman who started the fight works for bank of America. Last year the TV show American Greed did a show about a white con artist who used bank of America to rip off black lottery winner Abraham Shakespeare for $3 million dollars. They didn't comment much on her either, even after she killed him.

Hors Sfier

6/11/2015 05:43:33 am

Capital One and Wells Fargo both settled mortgage discrimination class action lawsuits within the past 5 years. People keep acting like the racism disappeared or that we talk about white supremacy too much. Black people pay a tax on top of a tax.

7EightyOne

6/11/2015 06:28:44 am

Not surprised that Tommy Sotomayor supports the cops.

R8sing A Nation

6/11/2015 06:47:20 am

@ Hors Sfier
Man don't get me started on the shady lending practices. I'm a liscened real estate sales agent and contray to popular belief the majority of us knew that the market was inflating like a water balloon. I discouraged people from buying in certain areas bc the market was over inflated. All of us in the industry knew how everybody from the top down was dirty. Anything went back then and the major banks did what they wanted to approve or decline loans. Then when shit hit the fan they still did what they wanted. They did a property grab,foreclosed on homes to cash in on pmi's/FHA/VA loans, cried for a bank bailout , bought up all the little community banks and as the final eff you they turned the lending market into a tight lending market and blamed poor people for the melt down!! Lies lies lies!!! Ugh!!!! Oh gosh excuse my epic mortgage rant. Lol
I have a really bad taste in my mouth about that whole period in time. Theives,crooks,liars, and they all got away with. Not one person punished!!
These banks purposely defrauded blacks people in targeted areas...there are current laws on the book that makes those practices illegal...but they all got away with it. The mortgage industry is nothing but a Transformer and right now they are just getting ready to do a reboot on everybody.
I looked at a housing wealth statistic and I won't quote the numbers(I don't want to be inaccurate) but a very small percentages of white lost wealth due to the housing down turn but almost all blacks lost their wealth. That is bc were still so new to the economic game. The majority of our wealth is tied up in primary residential real estate.
If you want to invest in real estate in this current market I recommend commercial and small cheap rental properties.
I was looking the other day in the Detroit market you can get a foreclosed home for under $15k The house may be not so great but it's the land it's sitting on. One day someone will want the land. Gentrification is about to ramp up in Detroit. Land is king not the 4 walls that's sitting on it...that's why the Indians worked so hard to get some land back.

dc1969

6/11/2015 09:29:54 am

What it really comes down to is for black/melanoid people to separate and stop wanting to be around those who hate our guts for basically the shit they started with us in the past. I personally have no wish to live around caucasian,asian etc. Unfortunately, i reside in new york city aka "the rotten apple" where there are not many black/melanoid neighborhoods like it used to be when i grew up in the 1970's thru the 1990's. This gentrification nonsense has fucked us up big time up here. Once again,though, most blacks don't see the shit that is on the horizon. Eventually, most will be pushed out because of rising rents and property values all because of those smiling,2 faced pale and other groups of species who have so much disdain for us. The majority of us had better wake the fuck up and smell the bullshit1

dc1969

6/11/2015 09:39:49 am

One more thing: that dirty swine cop had some sexual deviance going on with him to. I read that about 7 or 8 years ago,on a traffic stop, he and his partner stopped a brother down there. He then proceeded to pull dudes pants down to rub his balls to "check for contraband". Yeah,right! Now with him staddling this young teenager, he had his ultimate wish in being on top of a black/melanoid sister. These pale males are extremely perverted and more than people would think. His sexual fantasy was fufilled! That savage thug!

Cali

6/11/2015 09:43:18 am

It is interesting how the white teen couple who went on a crime spree in Pennsylvania and Ohio recently were romanticized as the "new Bonnie & Clyde". There was another young white couple who did the same last year who were afforded the same "Bonnie & Clyde". They are viewed as cute darlings when they are actually THUGS. They were treated with kid gloves when arrested. I'm sure the young white girls didn't have a cop on top of her with his knee in their backs.

Actually, Bonnie & Clyde were cop killers. But they are regarded as heroes in white folklore

R8sing A Nation

6/11/2015 10:07:54 am

@ Cali
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R8sing A Nation

6/11/2015 10:36:45 am

Is anybody watching the news ??? I just can't with how predictable these situations play out.
1. You have the racist mind tricks"what you saw is really not what you saw"
2. Marches
3. Racist screaming " what about black on black crime!!"
4. People get exposed for being racist by way of social media.. When they post outrageous things.
5. Racist cry" it's a free country we can say what we want, black people are the racist"
6. A traitor goes on national t.v defending the racist(today some brother from McKinney went on Fox News kissing the racist ass)
7. Black Churches call for calm and peaceful protest

How can we get camera time and say fu@#k the bowdown playbook! And call out the blacks that cosign this madness. We are looking so weak and predictable.

Hors Sfier

6/11/2015 01:11:33 pm

Blacks in America are a programmed race. White people know all the cues to.get us in a position of submission.

I said it in previous posts but back when I used to travel for work, I noticed white boys would always me ask the same set of leading questions. It was like they all read from the same script to sabotage your progress. This is why I dig the podcast so blacks can get a clear view of how they are manipulated.

Mr. Jon

6/12/2015 06:53:27 am

What would they ask? Curious.

Hors Sfier

6/12/2015 09:40:48 am

@Mr. Jon
Bro, glad you are still among the living.
1. I got a lot of questions about the ethnicity of women I liked. White boys asked me point blank if I preferred black or white women. This happened mostly after I graduated from college.

2. If I had a book on a technology white boys wanted to know WHY I was reading that book. And they wanted to know how much of it I planned to read.

3. If I had a gadget they had never seen before, it would turn into a damn interrogation. Where did you get it? What are you planning to do with it?

Tariq talked about the need white people have to stop black people and question them. The motives are never clear. And the questions were always hostile. They want to know if black people are plotting or organizing anything.

On the contrary, you try questioning a white boy on anything he does. Good luck with that.

Mr. Jon

6/13/2015 04:43:14 am

@Hors, thanks.

Didn't go anywhere I just had no tolerance to compete with the recent influx of trolls.

Well, it sounds like most questions they ask serves the purpose of guaging us (or "penis-measuring" if you will). I hear around attractive white women, they like to ask them if they've been with black guys... I'm still trying to figure that one out.

Hors Sfier

6/13/2015 05:15:45 am

@Mr. Jon

I have said it before. No one obsesses over black penis more than a white man.
A black chick tells a black man she had a white ex-boyfriend. No big deal.
A white chick tells a white man she had a black ex-boyfriend. HUGE ISSUE. GAME OVER.

99% of the jokes about Kim Kardashian relate to her dating preference.
Otherwise, she's just like the rest of the celebrity women.

That obsession with black males is the only way white feminists get attention. Just the specter of a big black violating white precious women is enough to enrage a white man and get all these bs laws passed.

Timothy

6/11/2015 03:10:43 pm

Actually, all Dandridge did was stick her toes in the pool, just for spite. Just because her toes touched the water, they drained and scrubbed out the pool. My father was born and raised in Charleston, S.C. One of my aunts showed me a hotel on King Street down there, and they weren't allowed to walk on the sidewalk in front of the hotel. If a Black's feet touched the pavement, they'd come out with a hose and wash the sidewalk down.

QueenEsha

6/12/2015 01:26:18 pm

I just came to stalk the comment section

Helper

6/13/2015 07:27:41 am

Me too. I'm white but I don't care. This stuff is interesting. My black friends told me most people are social climbers and that they are only loyal to their race because it's convenient. It kind of makes sense. Give me enough money or status, then idgf about white people anymore. Most people are more fickle than you think. My friend is right. hmmm

Hors Sfier

6/13/2015 12:11:33 pm

Nah. Racism is a white man's religion. Middle to upper income white people are just as racist. Certain white people will take a financial hit before lifting their feet off a black's neck. Look at Donald Sterling. White people practice racism for pathological, psychotic and sociopathic reasons. Because they can with no penalty in simplest terms.

The only finances that matter is the collective group economics of.black people. Economics gets you access to power and weapons, which realistically are the only things all humans respect.

We the people

6/14/2015 12:28:56 am

You are correct, It's a religion. Sometimes a person's religion can be a big red flag of irrational behavior. So their behavior is irrational in many ways. Don't expect rationality from them. Another poster on this website said,

"I'm white but a black friend of mine figured it out. All these foreigners are are let into this country in order to execute a potential c.i.a. national security model. Foreign countries are less likely to attack our country if they have soo much invested in it. (Family members, friends, dreams, money, bonds) Black Americans are being cast aside in the interest of national security.

Additionally, because other countries have so much invested in our country, they look the other way when we bully our way into their resources. They don't mind, it's called diversification to them. "

Therefore my new phrases are, "Foreigners don't protest, they appreciate". They don't want to rock the boat when they come to a new country; some of them had a hard enough time staying on the boat to get here. They only see American's as a bunch of unappreciative spoiled scumbags. The second generation that is born and raises here also picks up that attitude. This should help in categorizing who your ally's really are. "Foreigners don't hate, they appreciate!" Especially the ones in the technical fields at the top of the hour glass. The bottom of the hour glass being low paying immigrant labor.

BoomerGal

6/14/2015 05:25:52 am

Dr. John Henry Clarke suggests that we have no allies; we have no friends. History confirms this sentiment.

Hors Sfier

6/14/2015 08:55:24 am

@BoomerGal
That speech by Dr. Clarke changed my way of thinking. He breaks it down to its essence. Black people are in an abusive relationship.
We do not now, nor have we ever had allies. And white liberals are the absolute worst.

Anonymous

6/16/2015 05:21:01 am

As a data analyst, I noticed information for african-americans is very visible and the most visible online because they are less security savvy. Therefore, we really are incentivized to study african american buying habits. We are getting pretty good at it. Let this serve as a warning as well...protect your data!

R8sing A Nation

6/16/2015 07:45:03 am

I recommend a book tittled "Dragnet Nation" as a good tell all about what @ Anonymous is speaking to.

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